Questions

  1. What principles or experiments would you want to explore for it's governance?
  2. What would you centrally plan, if anything, and how would you do it?
  3. What would you optimize for, if anything?
  4. How would you ensure your policies are sustainable?

Assumptions

  1. The region is not self-sufficient. It has to trade successfully.
  2. You have a diverse set of bordering countries. Each with varying levels of resources, unique desires for trade, and wildly different planning strategies.
I haven't thought about this for a while, but I'm fascinated by projects like seasteading or Liberland.
No surprise that my preference would be to "design" a free country, but there are some interesting difficulties in doing so. One of those difficulties is avoiding being overrun by criminals and refugees immediately, which would happen if it just started as a free for all.
Assuming I'm the initial owner of the territory, I would design a land auction and gradually privatize the country, while using the proceeds to fund a trust that will support initial security and court services.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @Taft 26 Aug
Do you believe there’s a way to build a free country inhabited by people??
Half the population doesn't want freedom, while the other half wants freedom for themselves but simultaneously seeks to enslave others, IMO.
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I'm not sure if it's possible, but I think it's worth attempting.
If your view of humanity is correct, and I actually think it's extremely generous, then you may have to be very selective in who you allow in initially. That might mean making my hypothetical auction only open to select people at first.
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I would get many ideas from Liechtenstein, because I am an ancap but also a conservative. In the sense to preserve what good things and ideas are there to be conserved. And Liechtenstein survived the test of time with its good ideas, naturally it's not an ancap paradise but the closest land on that regard nowadays IMO.
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Singapore, Hong Kong, Switzerland
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Nope, those are communist hellholes compared to Liechtenstein, whose monarch basically calls himself an AnCap.
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Singapore I see it as a dictatorship, Hong Kong a bit better. Switzerland very good but too big and nowadays fell into many collective ideas, but still much better than EU in general. Anyway the practical idea is decentralize as much as we can, bitcoin helps a lot but also freedom tech, let's promote both!
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Switzerland is a federation, Confederation of Helvetica
edit: Why do you see Singapore as a dictatorship? I know they have some harsh laws such as caning for littering, etc
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In theory yes, much less in practice those days
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Why do you see Singapore as a dictatorship?
I edited my initial comment too late
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because they put people in jail for dropping a bubble gum at the street or for smoking marijuana, I am totally in favour of civilized atutide and against drugs. But I don't think it's fair how their treat people as criminals for small uncivilized actions or for usung substancies that make bad only for themselves. I mean it's a total unproportional justice system IMO.
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that is not how you define "dictatorship", though.
The punishment doesn't fit the transgression
This should only be attempted as an exercise in removing every law & department, one by one, replacing each govt entity with a private sector alternative or three, until there is no govt left.
If you just stopped offering all the services that the govt offers at once, there would be chaos. This is why most associate anarchy with chaos. That's how it's always been implemented before... But Argentina's Milei has proven that you can cut back quite a lot in a single year without societal upheaval.
So just do this, year after year, department after department, until they are all gone. Every last department, with criminal courts being the the last one.
That means you centrally plan nothing at all, let the free market optimize all markets, and have no policies to enforce, nor enforcers to command.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @jeff OP 26 Aug
If I had to give a word to what I'd want to design, it would be pragmatic-libertarian. I'd want to setup a constitution with libertarian principles, except minimized and explicit whitelisted scope of the state, such that it would constrain the growth of the state both economically and socially. Any growth in scope would require some extremely high quorum. It would start out with just enough pragmatism, such that the bears don't move in. I'd want to sort out how to make a public-court that chose winners and losers based on responsibility, perhaps rather than precedence -- not sure yet. The bias would be towards defending property rights, not optimizing for 'fair'. The constitution would also have a call-back such that any law that was too long, broad, or complex would be void.
I think a thin tax layer as a base, like a flat per-person rate, plus maybe taxes on vices or taxes that are a form of pseudo-penalties for behaviors that trespass against the property of others. Example: You spill pollution in your neighbors' stream, the penalty is high for such an act, sufficient to compensate the neighbor and fund the state. Notice that property rights are defended, and responsibility is incentivized.
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Have you seen the show Deadwood? We elect a sheriff to enforce common law
I skimmed the bear article in Vox. Why would violent crime and homicides increase? Why would there be more trash?
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Theocracy.
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You want to combine church and state?
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Nope. We’ve been there and done that! Kuyperianism. Sphere sovereignty.
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I think you should have broken this up into a series. Each on of these questions is thought provoking enough to spend some time writing on. All of them at once seems a bit overwhelming for an SN post. In my opinion anyways.
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A state is a monopoly on force, so in a practical sense one would explicitly and overtly optimize for that role, avoiding the incentive misalignment and theater of every other role states tend to mire themselves in.
Not-yet-awake AnCap's can get over it and think of it as a DRO within a defensible territory. Welcome to true anarchism....
There is no public or private property, there is only the state territory. As an individual you would have no "rights" owed to you, your presence in the territory is conditional on your acceptance of the service-level-agreement. That said, unlike most countries today, you are granted safe (free) passage to leave so long as you aren't a fugitive.
Governance of the State/DRO is a shareholder meeting election of an executive suite with a charter not dissimilar from megacorps today. You don't get a vote just for living in the territory (being a customer), you need to have equity, acreage as a franchise rather than private property equating to shares.
This incentive structure would lend itself well to defense of the territory from external forces while not deterring trade. Peaceful collaboration internally through arbitration and codes of conduct under the SLA would be the path of least resistance. The overt absence of freedom at a macro level paradoxically producing an optimally free and prosperous society at the micro level.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Taft 26 Aug
That’s a great idea, but I find it very challenging to design a country from scratch. I don't think my imagination is vivid enough to create such a design.
Only property owners can vote, easier to audit election results.
No income tax (instead tax consumption) No tax on capital gains No estate or inheritance tax
I need to think about this more...
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stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.