Here's my short list now. I'm looking for software for both phone and computer, easily available in all (or most) countries.
Blue Wallet Electrum Sparrow CoinOS
I'm sure I'm missing lots. I would appreciate your thoughts.
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Here's my short list now. I'm looking for software for both phone and computer, easily available in all (or most) countries.
Blue Wallet Electrum Sparrow CoinOS
I'm sure I'm missing lots. I would appreciate your thoughts.
What you use it doesn't mean are "the best"... is your personal choice based on your level of knowledge.
Here you have some guides that any beginner should read:
More wallet guides here: https://darth-coin.github.io/wallets/wallets.html
Am I the only one who uses Muun Wallet?
only idiots use that garbage
I wonder why did you say that! Also, I not only use Muun Wallet, but others like - Wallet of satoshi (for withdrawing small amount of Sats), Proton Wallet (Started using it recently as it is BTC only Wallet and meant to store your BTC for long term),and Binance Wallet(It's my main one).
Also, I find that image very rude :(
start reading, your low level knowledge about BTC wallets is disturbing https://darth-coin.github.io/wallets/lightning-wallets-comparison-en.html
I don't fucking care how you find it. truth must hurt.
So if is a "swiss-based" what does it mean? That's just a stupid reason to choose a wallet based on its "location". Also linking your BTC keys with a public email address is just fucking stupid.
Bro, I'm not being rude here so please stop speaking shit to me!
I know what I'm doing and everything is going really awesome from the day I started investing! I choose Proton wallet because I pay for their email and VPN services (ever heard of ProtonMail? When I said it's a Swiss-based Wallet I clearly mean that not even a single info of your is needed to Receive/send BTC and very few Wallets like these are legal in my country)So, stfu and get yourself a life.
F**ng idiot!
I was going to mention it. It's the one I use for most purposes. Excellent wallet, as simple as it gets, and the one I recommend.
The other one I have is Zeus, for it's easier to integrate with SN and Nostr, tough Muun is being listed by Yakihonne for integration now.
Thanks for sharing! I'll try Zeus too!
I have some lightning sats on there and would probably use it to get someone off zero by giving them some sats
FYI, Muun swaps all incoming payments on-chain. So lightning sats are not a thing there.
Yeah, I heard Muun isn't really a "lightning wallet" but don't understand the implications of that. You can still send someone a few sats and they can use it like a lightning wallet with the benefit of not having to fund liquidity, which creates a lower threshold for starting a wallet, like Breez
Exactly!
I think they subsidize and batch small payments, so the fees are manageable. Their approach has several benefits, but also a few problems. The most fundamental one would be that as fees increase, the wallet becomes less usable from an economic perspective. The constant swapping between layers just adds up. We saw that earlier this year when fees were super high during the ordinals nonsense. If you had your own lightning channels (with enough liquidity), it wouldn't have affected you at all. But Muun's system become problematic during that period. It's not clear to me whether they can simply tweak and optimize this system or need to fundamentally rethink it. There are some smart people working on it, I'm sure they have a few ideas.
Here I'm using Wallet of Satoshi 💀
Self-custodial Blitz Wallet worth playing around for newbies.
It uses e-cash and Liquid for small amounts, but once you exceed your specified amount, it automatically opens a hosted Lightning channel for you using Breez SDK and Blockstream Greenlight.
No need for that ”ok, once you get enough balance, move from Blink to Aqua and then from Aqua to Phoenix etc.”
Very cool - will look into this
are you interesting in on-chain wallets only?
Yes, on-chain is the goal. Though I included CoinOS in my short list - I thought it had on-chain features, turns out it doesn't.
depends on how much BTC you have. anyway, my advice is to used sparrow or electrum on personal PC or laptop. if you have a lot of BTC buy HW wallet, e.g. trezor 3 safe. On mobile you can use bluewallet in read-only mode, that way you can only receive btc when you buying at ATM or from VEXL. For sending and UTXO management use only PC.
If you want to pay for some day-to-day things then use LN, phoenix is good one.
that guide from @DarthCoin is very good, but if you have questions, just ask here
Coinos it does have on chain features.
Also, supporting testnet would be great. Looks like Blue Wallet does not.
I think Green wallet has testnet. Not sure if it's open source though
Padawan only uses testnet.
https://padawanwallet.com/
Actually it looks like Padawan uses signet.
The docs still say testnet, but when you use it, it shows up in signet.
green wallet good too, nice bridge to experiment with lightning too
https://bitcoin-safe.org Self sovereign single and multisig savings wallet , based on Bdk.
In my short walk down the Bitcoin rabbit hole I have learned that there are many wallets, with different uses. But it is always suggested that they be Open Source first, self-custody second.
For desktop Electrum and Sparrow.
For mobile Electrum, BlueWallet and Nunchuk.
CoinOS has an update where both Lightning and Onchain are handled. Although I don't like it.
In Cuba, all the ones I mentioned work.