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Hey everyone, I’m Saba from Workit (https://workit.fitness). We created a gamified fitness app that pays you Bitcoin for staying active.

Workit is the perfect solution to onboard millions of mainstream users to Bitcoin Lightning. Built with LDK, it offers both custodial and self-custodial implementations (self-custodial not yet activated).

So far, we’ve onboarded more than 10K people from the mainstream audience, each with at least a balance of 20 sats in their keychain.

Think of Workit as a game—somewhat like STEPN, but better and without the Ponzi aspect.

Workit hosts multiple step challenges each month, where you can compete with others and win Bitcoin. Along with opportunities to earn FREE Bitcoin for walking and also exercising.

Ask me anything!

What role do you think more mainstream projects like WorkIt can play in spreading Bitcoin adoption?

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A pretty cool thing that has already happened is that some of our premium users, who primarily use the app for workouts wanted to play challenges and messaged us asking how to get more sats.

Some of them actually won challenges, and one even messaged me saying they looked up places where Bitcoin was accepted and bought coffee somewhere that accepted Lightning.

It’s possible to put Bitcoin in the hands of the mainstream audience and let them to actually use and spend it. However, for this to happen, overall adoption needs to grow.. at least in terms of the number of places accepting Lightning payments.

Another thing to note is that the mainstream audience is often confused about 'sats.' They’ve heard of Bitcoin, but 'sats' isn’t widely recognized. I’m considering switching to the sats symbol Bitkit proposed—it could make it much easier for everyone to understand what they’re earning. Or just using 'Bits' instead of 'sats'.

A lot of people have messaged us saying, "Hey, where’s the Bitcoin we were supposed to earn? The app just says 'sats'"

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That's awesome. That's what @Undisciplined and I are trying to do with stacker sports podcast. To try and drive interest in the Sports territory to those that might not necessarily be current bitcoin holders or users. We know once people use the site and start zapping and getting zapped they will stick around and learn more about bitcoin.

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That’s super cool! It’s a super hard to onboard the mainstream, but definitely possible!

It basically takes one WhatsApp-level Bitcoin app to get Bitcoin into the hands of millions!

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I should've written billions instead millions

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Peloton showed that bringing the social/competitive aspect into the product is key to explosion in user adoption

You guys have clearly been killing it on onboarding people as well with over 10K brought in

What's on the docket for the next 5 years in continuing to leverage the social layer of Bitcoin and exercise to take this project to the next level?

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There are many gamification opportunities to build some very cool things. To get there, we first need to succeed on a smaller scale, so maybe, as you said, in 4–5 years.

What I envision as potentially very exciting is Augmented Reality games based on fitness and general physical activity. Which can be pretty awesome

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What inspired you to gamify fitness and integrate Bitcoin rewards?

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I had an existing business in the fitness and health industry that was doing really well, and I saw an opportunity to build something that could gain traction.

At the time, I was also obsessed with Bitcoin and thought it would be a cool idea to combine Lightning and fitness.

It’s a great way to get moving, win Bitcoin, or stay disciplined.

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Thank you for sharing your journey and inspiration behind Workit!

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Thank you for participating!

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Awesome of you to do this Saba. Really enjoy the app. Hopefully more stackers will join due to the AMA.

I would like to see more challenges added. Hopefully in the future.

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Thank you! I’d love to hear feedback from you guys about the challenges. It’s also possible for users to host challenges, which we hope to activate soon. This should introduce some variety!

If you have any specific type of a challenge (with goals and duration) I am all ears!

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I look forward to user created challenges.

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Yes, that’s pretty cool! We can even let someone from Stacker News create one. We’ll just need to provide you with the PIN for the instructor side of the profile.

The host will earn half of the cut Workit takes as a fee while hosting challenges.

In the future, we want to move that feature to the user side, so it will be much easier.

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That's awesome. We could have a different SN challenge each month.

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Yes, that's totally possible!

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I wasn’t aware of this app, but as a big runner and Bitcoiner, I’m super excited to try this app and the challenges! Let’s get moving!

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Awesome! Looking forward to seeing you in our challenges!

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Have you guys heard of Nostr? 👀

It would be an amazing addition to your marketing plan! Tons of health-focused bitcoiners over there to bring onboard 💪⚡️

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Hey! Definitely! We've been on Nostr for quite some time but only recently started posting. We don’t have much of a following there yet, but we’ll keep pushing more actively!

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👏👏👏👏👏👏

I really love this app, have you thought about partnering with gyms and/or sport centers? I see a lot of potential here, gym users exercising and earning sats, everyone will eventually join in (discounts, prizes, offers...)

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Yes! There’s a very cool opportunity to map gyms and offer gym-goers a loyalty program for consistency. There are even more creative things you can do, but that would be a long topic!

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Alby 9 Dec 2024

That's great to see another app in this industry <3 Welcome!

  1. Do you think about supporting NWC for self-custodial solution?
  2. Come over to oe of our Alby Community Calls, we present various great projects like yours and discuss them, next one is this Thursday 3PM UTC (https://cal.com/getalby/communitycall)
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Cool, I just signed up for the community call! As for NWC, not at the moment, but if there’s user demand, we will integrate it

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Does it have an Android version?

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Not yet, sorry, but next year!

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😥

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STEPN Ponzi lol

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Hey! There’s no Ponzi aspect in Workit, as we simply organize competitions and challenges without incorporating coins or NFTs into the game model.

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Your inspiration?

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I am Christian so Jesus Christ

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @snX 8 Dec 2024

I thought you were muslim cuz Saba name refers to muslim community usually

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I think the origin of the word is actually Hebrew, but I am not entirely sure

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Good luck 🔥 Looking forward to the android app!

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Thank you! It will be released next year!

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @orto 6 Dec 2024

Don't you consider an Android app?

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Yes, it will be released next year!

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It is not available on android. When will it be available on android?

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Hey, sorry, it will be available next year!

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Oh great. I want to try it.

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Thank you!

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Great 👏 👏. I saw that the app is only available for iOS. When will the Android version be launched?

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We will launch it next year, sorry for the delay!

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Is there an Android version?

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not yet, sorry, but next year it's coming!

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Could you explain the business model?, is the app free to use?, what data from the users do you collect and what do you do with it?

Thanks

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We only have access to Apple's health data, which is not stored on our end. You can use the Lightning keychain, earn 10 sats a day for free, and play challenges for free.

We generate revenue in two ways:

  1. Premium Subscriptions: Users purchase a premium subscription to unlock workout programs and personalized nutrition plans, mostly used by the weight loss community. We reward them with sats for their exercise efforts, ideally encouraging them to start playing challenges.
  2. Step Challenges: For example, 10 people bet 10K sats each to enter a challenge, creating a prize pool of 100K sats. The goal is to walk 10K steps a day for two weeks. If 5 participants win and 5 lose, we take a small cut from the pot of the participants who lost. The remaining goes to the winners.

Hope this helps!

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I don't understand how this type of app works, apparently it's a model that existed already? Can you please explain to me what is the monetization model you have?

I understand what SN does and I like to zap here for good content, but how you guys make money is not clear from what I saw on the website.

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Yes, we generate revenue in two ways:

  1. Premium Subscriptions: Users purchase a premium subscription to unlock workout programs and personalized nutrition plans, mostly used by the weight loss community. We reward them with sats for their exercise efforts, ideally encouraging them to start playing challenges.
  2. Step Challenges: For example, 10 people bet 10K sats each to enter a challenge, creating a prize pool of 100K sats. The goal is to walk 10K steps a day for two weeks. If 5 participants win and 5 lose, we take a small cut from the pot of the participants who lost. The remaining goes to the winners.

Additionally, we give away 10 sats per day for free in exchange for 10K steps a day. This cost is covered by the revenue we generate from premium subscriptions

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Wait wow never heard of you guys. I’m a big runner and use Smiles right now. I’m m excited to try your platform. What excites you most about the next year?

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That's awesome! We are currently part of an accelerator program. In January, we will raise our pre-seed and skyrocket the project!

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This is very cool. But how do you stop users from gaming it?

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At the moment, we have a very basic anti-cheat system integrated, but as we raise our pre-seed, we’ll work on improving it!

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Where do you see workit in 5 years in adoption?

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Ideally, we have 20 million monthly active users, and we’re preparing to release something special

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Is there an option to stack sats while having sex?

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Actually, yes. Our next release will be 'heartbeat' rewards. You will need to wearing your smartwatch though!

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All the best for further developments!

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Thank you!!

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @n01 5 Dec 2024

I can't think of a question that hasn't been asked already but I looked through the comments a bit and I like what I am seeing. I never would have thought of this business model. I love it. So many cool ways to earn Bitcoin.. this is the future. Keep up the great work..

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Thank you so much!

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I have been enjoying workit right from the beginning. Just completed the 4th challenge in November and it’s been great.

It’s great to receive sats while you’re doing exercise.

Great app!!

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Thank you!! If you have any feedback, we would love to hear it!

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All I can say is that the app runs smoothly, easy to withdraw sats whenever I tried and it’s great you can earn while doing exercise.

I thinks it’s a great idea and I hope you keep doing this great job

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Thank you so much!

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Are there plans to localize the app for specific countries or fitness cultures?

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Do you mean language-wise? Then yes!

I’m not entirely sure what you mean by fitness cultures, but what we had in mind was doing a #RunningBitcoin (halfin-style) challenge. So organizing marathons has definitely crossed our minds.

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Do you mean language-wise? Then yes! I’m not entirely sure what you mean by fitness cultures, but what we had in mind was doing a #RunningBitcoin (halfin-style) challenge. So organizing marathons has definitely crossed our minds.

Exactly! This is what I was asking for Thank you

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Do you listen music while workit? If yes, any particular song?

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Well, when I exercise, I don’t. But if I go for a walk, then yes.

I particularly love Harold Budd, Brian Eno, and Burial. But there are many others. I listen to all genres of music.

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Cool. You're very much like me or I'm like you. ;)

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Thank you!!

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Is your app on IOS are ads free and do i need to buy any premium service for more options?

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You can play challenges and earn sats for your steps for free. You can send/receive Bitcoin without limits, no withdrawal thresholds. There are no ads in the application.

If you want access to workout programs and the ability to earn Bitcoin for exercising, you’ll need to purchase the premium subscription. Premium users can also participate in up to three challenges simultaneously.

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What’s been the hardest part of building Workit so far?

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Building the lightning infrastructure and integrating it into the app. 100% this.

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Haha! you're not just lighting up the fitness world, but the whole infrastructure too!

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The hard part is already done, and when we start mapping gyms, it could be pretty insane

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and when we start mapping gyms, it could be pretty insane

Sounds exciting! I wish you the best of luck! And may the sats be in your favor!

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Thank you!!

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How @Workit_LN earn from it's users?

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We generate revenue from premium subscriptions and by taking a cut from the prize pools of the step challenges we host.

We also give away 10 sats for free in exchange for completing 10K steps a day. This cost is covered by the revenue we generate from premium subscriptions.

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How normal earning counts (How many SATs for x steps)

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For free rewards, 1K steps = 1 sat.

As for the challenges, it is based on a point system. 1K steps = 6 points.

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have you looked into https://exerwin.com/philosophy.pdf ? the author has put further development of this project on hold, due to lack of funding for marketing. i told him that it has to become open-source and lightning-based

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https://exerwin.com/philosophy.pdf I have not, but I will definitely take a look. Thanks!
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Looks pretty cool!

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Can i see and read you roadmap?

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We haven’t published it yet, but we’re gathering as much feedback as possible from our users and making product decisions based on that!

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What business are you in vs what business are you really in?

As in: I've seen a number of these freebies/pay-for-activity apps come and go; they don't ever seem to do anything but distribute value and go bankrupt. I'll happily try it (=take your sats) but what exactly is it that you're selling, why is your product a thing at all? What is it you're making money on, etc?

Put differently again (in regards to my music-has-no-value post #796401), why am I being paid for doing something that isn't scarce and isn't economically valuable (i.e., fitness/workout/moving)?

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We generate revenue in two ways:

  1. Premium Subscriptions: Users purchase a premium subscription to unlock workout programs and personalized nutrition plans, mostly used by the weight loss community. We reward them with sats for their exercise efforts, ideally encouraging them to start playing challenges.
  2. Step Challenges: For example, 10 people bet 10K sats each to enter a challenge, creating a prize pool of 100K sats. The goal is to walk 10K steps a day for two weeks. If 5 participants win and 5 lose, we take a small cut from the pot of the participants who lost. The remaining goes to the winners.

Additionally, we give away 10 sats per day for free in exchange for 10K steps a day. This cost is covered by the revenue we generate from premium subscriptions

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woaah -- OK, I do like that.

Thank you, that's amazing!

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Thank you!!

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How do you ensure the accuracy and privacy of user fitness data?

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Do you mean in challenges, how we ensure the data is authentic? Or are you referring to something like data leaks?

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challenges and data leaks

This

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The app is pretty secure, and we don't store the data on our end

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Do you guys support Lighting deposit & withdraw for Bitcoin SATS?

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Yes, it's a lightning keychain like Wallet of Satoshi, or Breez, Muun, or any other!

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How much time do you usually dedicate to exercising daily/weekly ?

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I currently work out 3 times a week due to a lack of time. In the past, I used to do 5 workouts a week!

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Any progress reports or graphs to summarizing my performance in app ?

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You can track your step activity, calorie intake/burn, water intake, and sleep (through health data), all of which come with accompanying charts for weekly, monthly, and yearly views.

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @BC 5 Dec 2024

What are workit goals?

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Get 10 million monthly active users. To be honest, it’s very important for me that this project succeeds, as it will enable me to do what I want to achieve in the future.

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Are there any specific types of exercises you enjoy/like?

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I like pull-ups, and I hate squats! So I do squats more

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @snX 5 Dec 2024

Amazing

I have a question

Any fitness trackers or wearable required while exercising?

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No, it relies on Apple Health data! However, we will be adding smartwatch support, as it will be necessary for our new types of challenges!

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What are work it plans for 2025 ?

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We’re currently part of an accelerator program that finishes in January. After that, we plan to raise our pre-seed funding and then skyrocket the project!

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It's there any apk available for android ?

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Not yet, sorry! We are currently only on iOS, but we’ll be announcing some exciting news in January, including updates about the Android version!

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Why fitness? Why Bitcoin?

The name is great. Did it come from the Missy Elliot song?

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I’m not exactly sure how the name came up, but I remember designing the logo as a "lightning" bolt, and the name "Workit" just popped into my head

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Perfect name and logo. Well done.

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Thank you!!

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When android app?

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Next year, sorry for the delay! We will announce some exciting news in January

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What is workit?

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Workit is a gamified fitness app that pays you Bitcoin for staying active.

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But I can't find it on play store, any apk available on Internet

Do you have any link, if available?

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Yes, sorry, it's only on the App store at the moment!

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What’s something you believe about bitcoin that few bitcoiners agree with you on?

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Well, it’s hard to quantify how many agree and how many don’t, but I’ll give it a shot:

The way I see Bitcoin being widely adopted as a medium of exchange, it won’t come from El Salvador, the United States, or any nation-state.

I believe a new city will be built from scratch.

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Will this new city be highly walkable?

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I think so, yes! Definitely, lot's of nature too!

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 5 Dec 2024

Do you all plan to have dietbet-like pools (if you don’t already)? I’ve always wanted a bitcoin version of that.

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Yes, that’s part of the plan, but not at the moment. We are currently focused on step challenges, but our next challenge type will be based on heartbeats, essentially focusing on exercise. For example, “Stay in your personal active zone for X minutes to achieve the daily challenge milestone goal.”

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 5 Dec 2024

What is the most surprising thing you learned building workit?

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Building on Lightning is super hard, especially if you are building a self-custodial solution. I thought it would've been easier

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Almost 200K followers on Instagram is extremely impressive 🔥

What was the key to achieving such a strong foothold over there?

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We’ve basically cracked what goes viral on Instagram. Recently, they allowed carousel posts with music to appear in the Reels Explore section (like TikTok). It’s a great way to grow quickly if you create the right content for the right audience.

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Smartest person you’ve ever met?

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Well, I’m not a very outgoing person and don’t meet a lot of people, but I’ve come across some interesting individuals in Bitcoin. It’s hard to pick someone in particular though.

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 5 Dec 2024

It doesn't have to be a person in bitcoin.

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I tried thinking of someone, but I couldn’t, sorry. :D There are many, but I just can’t pick someone specific.

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Do you plan a standalone app (independent of Google/Apple store)? Does it use any third party trackers? What are the privacy implications of using the app?

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Hey! Thank your for your question.

Do you mean like a progressive web app? Not at the moment, but we will be releasing our Android app next year.

The app relies on Apple's health data to track your steps. That's the only data we have access to.

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121 sats \ 1 reply \ @Lux 5 Dec 2024

Thanks for the answer. I mean, there's bitcoiners that use open source android OSs, that can't or won't use google or apple. Doesn't have to be a PWA, jus a downloadable APK, from github or your site. I'll pass for now, my data is my data, if you want it, we can negociate, but you won't like it ;) wish you success

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Thank you! Yes, I get where you are coming from.

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Hey team have you got an error with Bitcoin balance currently on app? I’m getting an error “ can’t get your balance”

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Yes, we are doing a small maintenance, should be working in a few moments.

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Great thanks . When’s a new challenge going up so I can join my first one?

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We will publish our new challenges tomorrow!

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Nice I look forward to it. Do I need to add a channel to it or is all that optional? And it says I can earn more by watching ads but I haven’t seen one yet?

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No, that's for the self-custodial wallet which is disabled at the moment. We will lock that part of the app for now as it confuses many. The ads aren't live yet but will be soon. Also, the maintenance is over and everything works now.

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Nice am I able to create a challenge? For SN users at all?

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Yes, it's possible. We discussed this opportunity with other members from SN, but I'm not sure if they've decided to give it a try. Maybe team up with them, and we'll give you access if there's enough demand.

Hey just got on the app! What do you get out of giving me sats for steps etc?

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The free sats we give out is solely for user retention. The cost is covered from the revenue we generate from premium subscriptions.

Ideally, we invite you to start playing challenges! Hope this helps!

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