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385 sats \ 24 comments \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 28 Dec Politics_And_Law

But almost 19 years later, Mangum suddenly has recanted. As noted earlier, she gave her stated reasons for coming clean, but one is tempted to look at some details before taking her remarks at face value. Why now?

Remember that in 2013, Mangum was sentenced to a minimum of 170 months for second-degree murder, but that also would include time served, as she was incarcerated after her 2011 arrest in the case. Given that, she almost certainly is approaching her first parole date soon, and one can be sure that the parole board of North Carolina would immediately reject her application if she were to continue insisting that the lacrosse players had raped her. Thus, she has a clear incentive to (finally) admit the truth.

I don’t know how many of you remember this case, but it was a huge kerfuffle in 2006-7. The accuser would not budge from the claim of rape by the lacrosse team. They were found not guilty at trial. It was one of the big cases that brought PC into wokeness and one of the first cases of cancel culture.

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94 sats \ 19 replies \ @Undisciplined 23h

It was completely unallowable for anyone to even entertain the idea that she was lying, so it came as quite the cultural shock when they were acquitted.

I would wager that most people still believe they raped her and it is definitely the first thing anyone thinks of if Duke Lacrosse is mentioned.

34 sats \ 2 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

Yes, you couldn’t say otherwise, no matter the evidence that was brought out. One kid wasn’t even there when she was! It was a huge shock to hear of acquittal. You are right about what people think when they heard Duke Lacrosse. It is now about 20 years later and they are finally cleared by a liar.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 23h

Maybe cleared officially, but still permanently smeared and stigmatized.

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

I don’t know how they are doing now. I haven’t heard. This is the problem with “always believe the woman”. I think you see a lot of it going on in family courts, too. I guess dishonesty has a reward and as long as someone is paying it, there will be dishonesty. Until strong, adversarial cross-examinations are allowed, there will be lies.

66 sats \ 7 replies \ @Bell_curve 23h

There was a rush to a guilty judgment because the accuser was black woman and the accused were white males

If the accuser was white female and the accused black males, innocent until proven guilty

11 sats \ 6 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

Yes, that is understood since the late 1960s. Also understood is that every black person deserves reparations from every white person no matter who they are. These are the advantages of the lefty/Marxist/socialist/communist/murderers propaganda and indoctrination process.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Bell_curve 21h

Black privilege that no one will acknowledge

62 sats \ 4 replies \ @Signal312 20h

I've had some second hand experience with this. In a left-coast liberal city, someone I know was a juror in a trial. A black lady hit another car, the evidence appeared really clear that she was guilty, and she was also under the influence. But she was acquitted, other jurors flat-out said things like, "there's no way I'm going to convict a black person".

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 20h

There you go! Privilege, indeed! If people can get away with whatever they would do and have no consequences you wind up with San Francisco and Chicago and so many other cities in decay.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 20h

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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 19h

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 20h

I wasn't shocked by OJ Simpson verdict

23 sats \ 7 replies \ @Bell_curve 23h

Duke President Richard Brodhead cancelled the lacrosse season.

The DA knew the accuser was unreliable yet he prosecuted and was later suspended

Guilty until proven innocent i.e. the accuser is full of shit

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

Yes, they moved without having a jury weigh in on it and decide based on the evidence and cross-examination. It was a travesty of academic justice.

31 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 23h

The boys were all expelled, if I recall correctly. Granted, they were partying with a prostitute, so maybe that's enough.

31 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bell_curve 23h

They were not expelled for partying, which would be a suspension at worst.

I think they sued Duke and won a nice cash settlement but still, their lives were ruined

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

I do recall the suits that followed, but don’t remember the specifics. I think all of them became independently wealthy from the suits, but I also remember them as being rich kids from the beginning. They should go back for another dipping from the slush fund of the state university.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 23h

That sounds familiar.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

Yes, but they were screwed up one side and down the other. I haven’t heard of them since then.

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

Yes, all expelled and the lacrosse team disbanded. All due to lying. This is part of law. Lying does not go.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 23h

from chat gpt:

Yes, the three accused Duke lacrosse players—David Evans, Reade Seligmann, and Colin Finnerty—did file a lawsuit against Duke University.

In 2009, they filed a civil lawsuit against the university, alleging that they had been unfairly treated during the 2006 rape allegations and that Duke had violated their rights. The lawsuit claimed that Duke's administrators, including President Richard Brodhead and others, had rushed to judgment and publicly condemned them without proper investigation. The players argued that Duke had caved to public pressure and media sensationalism, leading to their wrongful suspension and the university's failure to protect their reputations during the highly charged case.

Key Points of the Lawsuit:

Allegations of Defamation and Violation of Rights: The players argued that the university’s actions defamed them and caused significant harm to their reputations. They also contended that Duke had infringed upon their due process rights by suspending them without proper investigation or cause, in effect treating them as guilty before their innocence was proven.
Settlement: In 2009, the lawsuit was settled out of court. While the terms of the settlement were not fully disclosed, it was reported that the university agreed to pay a financial settlement to the players. The settlement did not include an admission of wrongdoing on Duke's part.
Impact on the Lacrosse Program and the University: Although the lawsuit was settled, it highlighted the significant fallout from the case for both the players and the university. The Duke lacrosse program was temporarily suspended, and several individuals associated with the university (including the lacrosse coach) faced consequences. The players’ reputations were severely affected by the public nature of the case, despite being exonerated later on.

The case remains a pivotal moment in Duke University's history, raising broader issues about due process, the role of universities in addressing allegations, and the consequences of public opinion and media coverage in legal matters.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

The AIs can sure do a lot of research quickly, can’t they?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 23h

Second degree murder? I had no idea but I also haven't been following the case or her

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 23h

Yes! This was after the Duke Lacrosse case.