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1151 sats \ 28 comments \ @siggy47 17 Feb Politics_And_Law

If DOGE's numbers are right, $522B—1/3 of ALL spending on Social Security each year—is fraudulent," X user Robert Sterling said.

"There's crazy things, like, just a cursory examination of Social Security and we've got people in there that are about 150 years old," Musk said. "Now, do you know anyone that's 150? I don't. OK. They should be on the Guinness Book of World Records, they're missing out."

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138 sats \ 12 replies \ @kepford 17 Feb

Its truly shocking but honestly... we should not be surprised. Centralized systems with little to no incentive to do a good job and no incentive towards accountability will end in massive waste and abuse. IMO if you are giving money out you will always have some sort of waste and abuse but when it is a massive federal agency it will just be on a much more massive scale.

I get push back from some of my Christian brethren about privatizing charity. They don't believe people will be cared for. I disagree but more importantly people will get actual help from many different sources instead of the state who creates dependency and enables theft.

91 sats \ 1 reply \ @freetx 18 Feb

privatizing charity

Its pretty infuriating to know that the State (a) by directly taking ~30% of all productive peoples income, and (b) in concert with constant money printing has effectively brought an end to most meaningful private charity.

The average person doesn't has the financial resources to give anymore. They're already effectively giving ~50% away via direct & indirect taxes + inflation.

To make matters worse, the money stolen was simply wasted on a grand scale - not even helping the people the claimed all this was for....

You can see the results on the streets of any major city. When you see the drugged out zombies living on the street you are physically seeing this result (ie. a hollowed out private charity capacity stripped bare by a kleptocracy)

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 18 Feb

But children will die if we don’t launder money thru USAID!

73 sats \ 9 replies \ @Undisciplined 17 Feb

I can't even articulate what it means that this is even surprising people like us.

33 sats \ 8 replies \ @kepford 17 Feb

Honestly, my reaction wasn't shock. Rather that it is likely to shock others to be clear. At this point I'm not sure I'm capable of being shocked by Trump's people uncovering stuff. I would describe myself as numb to it.

I mean... it would shock me if the US really did decrease overall spending and eliminated the income tax. The theft, malice, and abuse doesn't shock me anymore. Covid really re-framed my view to even more of a negative view of the state and those in power. I was already opposed to the state but underestimated just how bad it was and how gullible the public can be.

I've landed on the position that these gullible people aren't statistically important. Of course they are as humans but they are like ballast. They just float with the trends. Trying to "win" them over is a complete waste.

42 sats \ 7 replies \ @Undisciplined 17 Feb

"Shock", and maybe even "surprise", aren't quite the right words. My point is that there's something really deeply meaningful to people like us being overly generous, if anything, towards the extent of state abuses.

We must be more anti-state than 99.9% of the population and the revelations go beyond what even we thought was happening (at least they do for me).

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 17 Feb

I feel ya and agree.

31 sats \ 5 replies \ @kepford 17 Feb

Imagine being so invested in your politics to be angry about this. That is wild to watch and confirms so much of what I've believed for years.

The next ten years are gonna be interesting. How far will the exposure and cuts go? Will they stick? I don't think they will stick. Either way if you are a politically homeless you have a better chance of avoiding the psyops.

60 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 17 Feb

"Will they stick?" is a fascinating question. In a way, I also think they won't. I don't sense any receptiveness to any of this information from the normies I know.

However, I think the country might be fundamentally changed after the revelations (and corresponding cuts). It's looking like the entire perversity of the modern left might have been fake the whole time.

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109 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 17 Feb

Wow some fraud is expected but if these numbers are correct it is really unbelievable.

125 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scroogey 17 Feb

This seems like an old problem, too: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/03/10/392112708/6-5-million-social-security-numbers-linked-to-those-112-or-older

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 18 Feb

Governments abd surveillance are synonymous. We're fortunate that sovereignity and Bitcoin are also synonymous.

178 sats \ 1 reply \ @Murch 18 Feb

Wasn't 1875 just the default value for the birth year when it wasn't known for an entry?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 18 Feb

That's a good point. It's important that this stuff doesn't get exaggerated.

46 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 17 Feb

Imagine Elmo having your PII and SSN...

Oh wait...

We really need to focus on how to be 100% non-compliant and give no one any data ever again.

57 sats \ 4 replies \ @Aardvark 17 Feb

I absolutely fucking hate the government.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @optimism 17 Feb

The other day I was thinking of going all Waterworld and making a sovereignty-respecting atoll in international waters.

I'm way too old for that tho. Maybe I'll write an SF novel instead and hope someone young actually does it 😂

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Aardvark 17 Feb

I'm a knight of the sovereign military order of Sealand. And no, it's not a joke.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 17 Feb

You will need approval from the Bureau of Internal Affairs to visit Sealand

Sounds statist 😂

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 17 Feb

You better not be talking shit about Prince Michael. 😉

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @LowK3y19 17 Feb

Still collecting checks

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 17 Feb

Makes you think why didn’t Trump find this the first time?

I’m still waiting for the NEOCON fraudulent spending to come out

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But overall I’m not surprised. Out of all the Government employees a good 10 to 20% work hard the rest are just meat bags getting paid with no fear of ever getting fired.

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 17 Feb

If this is the case, then they have to go full Mises Bureaucracy and make the rules such as they can never again give money to a foreigner or dead person. DOGE should also shut down 2/3 of all the departments and agencies, the NGOs that we pay for and shift as much of the rest to the states as they can. Eviscerate the federal government. FTS

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Butterfinger 17 Feb

"save one trillion in 10 years! that's nothing and the US is still going bankrupt. Then why not simply stop paying the debt? Just burn it: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=sbKqb80AZqs