Studies suggest that legalized prostitution is associated with higher incidents of human trafficking, although you could easily argue that anyone has the right to sell their own body regardless.
What do you think?
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Studies suggest that legalized prostitution is associated with higher incidents of human trafficking, although you could easily argue that anyone has the right to sell their own body regardless.
What do you think?
Yes, of course.
That argument has the same logic as killing children to prevent pedophilia.
I've never heard that before, but to be fair, it would bring pedophilia down to zero...
I do actually agree though, I don't really agree with it on a moral stand point, but I don't think people should be forced to behave on the grounds of what I consider to be moral behavior.
I think you asked the wrong question.
You should make a clear separation between the pimp business and "freestyle" entrepreneurship of an individual that choose to offer sex services.
The pimp is the exploiter and in some cases even the slave master.
Even then, asking if is legal is not the right question.
One of the answers to this question would be "Yes, slavery is already a crime."
and yet the majority of population agree to be slaves...
Is it agreeing? The whole premise of slavery is that it's forced on you.
Please watch this documentary named exactly like that:
SLAVERY BY CONSENT
https://seed191.bitchute.com/DloKuX9FCvkz/ozLXXrmodVNM.mp4
and you will understand how the modern slavery works.
It's a lifestyle that I think is unwise, but the whole point of a free society is that we make those choices for ourselves.
I have the same views surrounding drugs. It's not something I want to do, but people should be free to do it.
one thing is moral and another thing is legal...
the simple way is to observe who gets it, and build out a strong network consisting mainly of the righteous people, who are capable of recognizing wrong and defending against it. going into the crowd of wrong-thinkers and wrong-doers to preach righteousness is suicide... imho. let them destroy or weaken each other first.
There is no such thing as 'natural law'.
It is a nonsense term.
Laws governing what is deemed to be acceptable and unacceptable human behaviour are human constructs, made and enforced by governments.
Never heard this one before, but I have to say i'll be stealing this one
I made it up on the spot. You're welcome to it.
Shit you made that up?! I already killed 3 kids to stop the pedophiles!
That shouldn't change anything. I am a certified member of the expert class, after all.
Oh, thank God. I'll fire up the furnace for the bodies.
Amongst consenting adults sure.
Seems to be the general consensus. That and the normal anti government stuff.
people should ask more questions about how to fuck the gov and make it obsolete and not about how somebody else is doing their own business...
what is this ugly image?
It's one I made quickly to show you the steps to post your questions
That's a savage move, damn 😆
If I ask I will put a bounty, not just asking for the sake of asking...
I think all posts on "askSN" should be only bounties.
I am asking to make discussions. Some people actually enjoy talking. You can read my purpose here if you want.
#890516
That was a clever reply!
I read this generation is having the least sex of previous ones, the internet and inflation does wonders for celibacy I suppose versus any government mandate.
Besides, let people enjoy themselves, people are going to pork, get over it! It's an open market, and people are free to choose. All men pay for sex, all we are is haggling over quality, consistency and price
Also Think of all the dudes that don't go wackadoodle on society because they can't get any, thats the unseen that those ladies of the night save us from
I thought the making it illegal is associated with higher incidents of trafficking....
When it's illegal, there's also far less safety for all parties involved. Places where it's legal have regular STI testing and all kinds of rules/regulations to protect the providers from violence or coercion.
I think it would also be much healthier for men in general if it were legal. Healthier nation. Not to mention, more tax revenue to states instead of to pimps. Win-win.
imo, sounds like you're conflating "legal" and "regulated"
I'm all for interested parties having ample access to testing and safety, but if you need a license then it's not "legal". for instance... having a child is "legal" because there's no need for a license.
leeeesgo, Aardvark!
Nothing but the simple questions will dooooo!
I'm marking that as a "yes"
yup
I wonder if these "studies" take into account the impact of poverty on the higher levels of human trafficking. I suspect that as well as a general destruction of moral values are a larger factor.
Passing a "law" is not magic.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X12001453#:~:text=The%20scale%20effect%20of%20legalized,are%20favored%20over%20trafficked%20ones.
Yea, there's some pretty thorough ones actually.
No. It should not be.
Any reason?
For the betterment of society obviously.
Its still needs to be controlled and stopped but once it became legal women or shall i say girls of second or third world would all be trafficked and put up in brothels whether they like it or not. And I know its already being done at some level but the ratio is low, would increase drastically if & once it got legal.
It would be healthier if more guys paid SWs than onlyfans
Healthiest ever. I have a wife. 😁
Huh?
define legal
Allowed by our government oppressors.
Is a government "yours" ? Is your property?
I like the crime family analogy. The state is basically a mob that has tricked the population into believing they have some special powers.
Not "yours" in the sense that you own it. "Yours" in the sense of "your captors"
Who is this government?
A person, a living man, a group of people ?
Do you have any contract /agreement with him/them ?
How did you end up being captured by them?
I think of the State as a metacognative entity, with its own cognition. The humans it is made of are replaceable, like skin cells.
They are a criminal organizations that uses force to extort money and opress a population.
Nobody has a contract or agreement with them and if they do "pray that they don't alter it further"
So if you do not have any contractual obligation, why do you still obey them ?
Why do you seek their authority, by saying "is it legal... X or Y ? "
The reason I asked is because I hoped people would have a strong opinion about and enjoy discussing it. My personal opinion on the government is to minimize my interactions with them as much as possible. Despite their authority being an illusion, their threat of force is very real.
Studies indicate that everything that is legalized, especially in this type of activity, begins to suffer strong regulatory action from the state, which also imposes a series of obstructions (regulations) in addition to bureaucratic torment. Other studies also indicate that organized crime associated with prostitution, such as drug and human trafficking, are encouraged by state agents themselves who facilitate the activities of these offenders to "protect" them through extortion. I must have been ironic, but it is convenient for the State to act this way.
Of course it should be legal.
What two consenting individuals do in private is none of your, my or the state's business. That includes any economic transactions they engage with.
Go after the traffickers, slavers, rapists. Leave people working to satisfy a demand out of it.
The oldest profession has that name for a reason and it will outlast any other, why fight for it to remain in the shadows when it has driven more innovation throughout history than anything, save maybe warfare, and it is a major player in making sure crypto currency continues to thrive
Yes. Puritanical bullshit pushed by the church has forced it's version of morality to adults via laws. Your religion has nothing to do with what the fuck I want to do with my adult body. Human trafficking is horrific. That's a different aspect to this issue. It's definitely happening. Those people should be arrested and fined.
Sex work should be licensed. It's the OLDEST PROFESSION. You pass a health check (mental and physical) and register as a sex worker with a license. City Sex work taxes, State Sex work taxes and Federal sex work taxes. What do those taxes pay for? It should pay for testing and licensing sex workers. People are doing it. Make it safer and cleaner. Jail the traffickers. Send those sats/cowboy credits/etc. Not ETC. Ew.
Protect yourself at ALL TIMES.
I don't want anyone to sell their body. But I'm in favor of freedom of choice. If someone wants to sell it, then let them sell it in a legal way. However, I'll never buy it.
Why shouldn't it be legal? Of course I am all for it!
Wish this was a poll.
Would you want your daughter or son doing it?
But for Libertarians, perhaps everything is a commodity...
I wouldn't want my son or daughter doing a lot of things. That doesn't mean it should be illegal.
Doesn't it?
I guess legalisation does enable it to be monitored and reduces the degree to which organised crime control it.
But on the other hand legalisation seems to accept or legitimise it.
Tough question overall imo.
No it doesn't. You can't legislate everything you want to protect your children from.
You may be right.
Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you should push that way of life onto others. Live life your way and let others do the same.
Making prostitution, alcohol, drugs, gambling, and similar "vice" activities illegal is associated with black markets, increased violence, authoritarian governments, massive waste of resources, and complete failure.
It's been legal where I live for about 20 years, and it makes sense for it to be legal. It's going to happen anyway, whether it is legal or not.
I'm not really sure about the increased human trafficking. Would love to see those studies. It's usually retail and food outlets exploiting migrant workers. But I'm sure it exists in the sex industry.
It's more a morality question than a legal one