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55 sats \ 0 replies \ @mo 1 Mar
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1180 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 28 Feb
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65 sats \ 15 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 28 Feb
This is the wildest thing I've ever seen in politics. Probably crazier than Joe Biden's mental collapse on stage in the debate.
Why did they decide to do all that with the cameras running?
@Cje95
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 12h
Tomorrow I will have a post about this.... Naturally this Admin (who I do support) has made a lot of stuff difficult including regular Congressional Staffers like myself getting screamed and cussed at in the streets for something we did not touch or do. I have lost several friends in the last month along.
Friday was my 30th and I was hoping to have some peace and celebrate it when the exact happened occurred. Since the shit storm I have slept and tried to ignore this until tomorrow but I will be sure to follow up about everything I know and well my opinions about it all.....
Happy birthday to me -_-
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 5h
Happy birthday! Sorry for @-ing you on your birthday about this sore topic :(
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208 sats \ 2 replies \ @freetx 1 Mar
So the story gets worse.....(I'm sure this is a fair amount spin to this, but lots of it rings true).
- Evidently Sec of State Rubio is pissed, he had told Trump that "the deal was done" and then Z shows up and start free-styling and changing terms. Makes Rubio look bad since he vouched for Z that the deal was ready to go.
- They had 2 binders prepared. So they were all expecting to greet each other, chat for a bit, then proceed to sit in front of cameras and sign the deal...then it went off the rails...
- The clip of arguments thats being circulated is the last 10 mins of a 40 min conversation. Everything leading up to the blow out was calm and productive. Then evidently Z got heated with JD Vance and it all went to shit.
Probably no better pic explains the meltdown than the poor Ukrainian Ambassador
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 1 Mar
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 1 Mar
Do you have a link to the full 40 min video?
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219 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 28 Feb
What good is a psyop if no one is watching?
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61 sats \ 8 replies \ @freetx 28 Feb
I'm not educated enough on the talks to actually understand the exact points being argued for/against?
I assume Zelensky wanted US continued involvement? Or was the disagreement over paying back US via mineral deal? or both?
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31 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 28 Feb
I'm not entirely sure the nature of the disagreement either, or what the main sticking point is.
I think Russia wants a guarantee that Ukraine doesn't join NATO, and Trump is willing to concede that. Not sure if Zelenskyy and Western Europe are on board with that. Trump also wants Ukraine to concede "mineral rights" but i'm not super sure what that means. Probably giving US companies the right to engage in natural resource development & extraction in Ukraine.
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31 sats \ 6 replies \ @Bell_curve 28 Feb
there is also the question was aid to Ukraine a gift or a loan
because there is no way Ukraine can pay it back
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111 sats \ 5 replies \ @freetx 28 Feb
From reading some more online, this is what I gather has gone down.
- US wanted Ukraine to give up portions of land already controlled by Russia to Russia
- US wanted Ukraine to sign minerals deal with US to pay back loan
Zelensky agrees to those 2 points, but he makes it contingent that US provide "security guarantee"
Trump refuses this as it keeps US perpetually on the hook if and when fighting reignites.
Thats what led to the blowup in the meeting.
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bell_curve 28 Feb
Trump should make a deal with Putin:
Donbas is neutral
Crimea stays in Russia
US extracts minerals from Ukraine
new elections in Ukraine to get rid of Zelensky
update: new leader of Germany publicly supports Zelensky, which is symbolic only
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 28 Feb
Thanks, that's useful to know
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30 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 1 Mar
I can only imagine Trump scolding the Ukrainian president as if he were a little kid who got into a fight at school 🏫
and the actor looking annoyed because he's not being defended
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30 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 28 Feb
Looks like something you would see down at the pub
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73 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 28 Feb
I havent seen the whole video but it seems most of what we were shown on social media is the final heated 10 minutes... allegedly the first 40 minutes were much calmer and diplomatic.
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34 sats \ 1 reply \ @Lux 1 Mar
Now speak like that to Netanyahu
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105 sats \ 0 replies \ @openyoureyes 1 Mar
Exactly.
Trump should not support these wars. America has been on the wrong side for too long.
Many jews in israel are against this war an against netanyahu (who probably is involved in this terrorist attack)
Every school, university and hospital bombed, not one familiy without deads. The whole world is watching what these zionists are doing and history will repeat itself once again.
Many jews know that and try to stop it, but the zionist regime in israel is also fighting them. I have never seen israel police beating rabbis like arabs before.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 1 Mar
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 28 Feb
Its funny how they think russia will just fall in line.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 28 Feb bot
https://xcancel.com/saras76/status/1895533055613493755
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nichro 1 Mar
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