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Yes, that's what I am trying to express.
For example the left is always opposed to completely free markets. They do not shy from this. They are opposed to inequality. Of kind and outcome.
Any right winger who opposes all regulations is usually called extreme by those in his camp. Those that say taxation is theft are extreme.
The common conservative stance is to only be more moderate than the liberal left wing Democrats. Lower taxes. Not oppose them. Reduce regulations not eliminating them.
You can say they have principles but they are based in opposition to a more extreme left wing stance. They are reactions. They aren't based principles on their own.
You have to get into the libertarian side to find actual based principles. One can think both extremes are wrong but I think it's hard to say they aren't principles.
Another way of putting it is that Democrats and Republicans are more alike than different to me. The difference is mostly in degree. There are exceptions but history seems to show that the Republican and right is drifting leftward in both their view of law and morals. They are just slower to progress left than progressives.
I'm skeptical. You average user of Zillow today has no clue how off it is on price very often.
These apps are useful but in most cases my friends in real estate will tell you that it is wildly off. A good agent will run comps manually and even those estimates are often off. It's all guess work until someone actually puts down an offer.
And so much of what a house will go for is not data based. Presentation, irrational thinking, and fear play in. If you all are talking about betting markets on individual houses sale price I am skeptical. Not that someone would bet, but that it would have utility.
On top of that real estate is highly localized. These aggregates of nationwide data are interesting but in the context of people living in an area they have little utility.
The OP says predictable. What do they mean? A specific house in a specific market? Probably not but why would one want the macro to be predictable??
True, but I was thinking back even before social media. To me, the left has had more principles. I disagree with them but they have them. Where as the conservative movement has always seemed like a reactionary movement.
This is a very good question. I don't have an answer. I dont know that I would say never because there probably have been times in some of them.
I don't think we are seeing this now regardless of what people say about DEI and climate stuff. It's still there in them they are just cloaked now due to the new admin. At best it's a paused.
One reason in modern times at least is that the modern right wing movements seem to lack actual principles. They have a lot of positions but most are reactions to the left.
There are exceptions but it's not the norm.
I think the 90s were the most "race blind" we were
Yeah... I kinda agree on that point. It sure seemed that way to me.
I don't think race blindness is even a goal anymore in our culture. It seems that this is actual considered terrible by many.
Racism is just dumb in my book. Taking the moral part out... just dumb.
Congress is incentivized to avoid responsibility
boy is that every the truth. Same goes for California legislature. This is why there's a proposition system in California. Anything too risky for the legislature is kicked to the masses. Then groups manipulate the foolish distracted public.
If anything that risks upsetting the system gets through the courts kick it. Sometimes they don't even allow things to get on the ballet. Prop 9 (Three States Initiative) is the classic example. Watching that play out was the final nail in the coffin for me on California's conservatives getting a clue.
I agree. Don't know much about IN or the Dakotas but I love Tennessee. Still... I don't think TN has reversed course long term. Not yet. Seems to me they have only slowed the drift more than other states.
Exactly. Presidents have pushed and pushed over decades. Honestly, going back to the Civil war at least. Lincoln wasn't kept in check. People get hung up on the issue of that day, slavery just as people get caught up with issues today and miss the longer term consequences.
When you read history, not that crap they tell you in school you realize that everyone is a hypocrite and really only care about abuse of power when they are the victim. That is how this drift happens.
Obama is the best example in recent memory. He ran against the Bush era abuses of power allowed after 9/11. He promised he'd roll it back. Instead he did the same things all be it in a more sly and less obvious way. There were even stories in the NYT about how as Obama was leaving office his fearful of what would be done with these power by the incoming Trump admin.
Its almost comical. Today Trump fans are running victory laps in regards to Trump's executive actions. What happens with the other side comes back to power. They will roll many things back. They will have support to do equally extreme (to the right) actions.
Its all so tiresome.
Yep.
I'm beating a dead horse but it really annoys me. TPTB also love for people to look over at their neighbors and focus on the issues in their schools, government, and institutions. This is what Christians do as well. Instead of looking at failure and success and trying to learn, then see what we can do in our own areas of influence and control we just stoke our egos about how much better we are.
This is why movements and institutions just keep drifting leftward. We have hit a point where people have been awaken from their slumber but they have a comical level of over-confidence that things are shifting in a more than temporary way.
I'm not convinced its fall will be as dramatic as many in other states hope for.
The reason I say this is because I have seen areas bouncing back faster than I expected from the Covid fiasco. I think it will be a long drawn out affair. I'm hoping to pick up cheap land if it does happen in my lifetime.
Either way, California will bounce back for no other reason than it is one of the most amazing chunks of land on the planet and there are still many good people here that aren't insane. Just not enough to sway elections/politics.
What I don't see enough of is people that like to mock California applying lessons to their own areas. Their own towns, counties, and states. Several times I've talked to people in other states that mention news stories about California that are unaware of similar things happening in their own freaking backyards. I want these people to avoid going down the road California is on. It would be great to have a place to flee to if it gets really bad.
Its just easier to point at others and mock vs. look at your own place and fix it up. Complaining is easy. Talk is cheap. Our towns and businesses have real problems and I don't think most people have as much skin in the game as they should.
Outsiders do not really understand California has always had massive conflicting interest groups. Its always been this way. These long term divisions have little to do with right/left politics but today those divisions play in as well. Water is the big and long lived divide. SoCal, CenCal, and the Bay Area all conflict over water rights.
Cultural differences also play in. The middle of the state is Ag focused and more conservative. Northern California is far more rural and is hard to pin down politically. But these two regions are steamrolled and have been for decades by SoCal and the Bay Area regions. There are conflict between LA and SF. Between LA and the Central coast.
The state is too big and diverse even if they all voted the same in national elections. Depending on where you live in SoCal you might be OK though. I have seen maps that would divide the state including Orange county and the land east of it in with Bakersfield and Fresno.
Sadly, I think the state breakup will either never happen or be VERY ugly and messy. Most people have never thought deeply or even close to deep about this stuff. You don't have to be an anarchist or libertarian to see it. The left runs this state and has for decades and I don't see that changing. Where I'm different is that I don't see other places going the opposite way. I see them as just a few years or maybe a decade behind it. History shows this to be true. Unless the right realizes that most institutions are fully owned by those that hate them it will not shift in a meaningful way. Many institutions need to be torn down before other states can actually alter their direction. They will just continue to follow California.
You are correct. SF and LA almost always lead the way left and into madness. The rest of the state doesn't have the population to really hold them in check both at the ballot or in Sacramento. This is the basic thing that I have tried for twenty years to express to conservatives I know here.
When there were efforts that had more press to break up the state I never found a person on the right I know that was for it. This was pre-Covid. I still don't think there is enough clear headed thinking to see it.
Trumps election really gave the right wing over-confidence and they are gonna lose hard in the coming years for it. The divide culturally is getting wider, not closer. I see more conflict and more violence ahead unless the two sides actually start to think rationally.
People that profit off of this divide will perpetuate it until this happens.
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