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There you go bringing up inconvenient facts. The USA is awesome. When my party is in power that is....
Alternate take.
We thought Europeans were enlightened. Unlike the US where racist laws require permission to enter... turns out the Swiss don't want to be flooded with "newcomers" either.
I am not a statist but I do reject the idea that moving to the ideal state of things in any order has equal consequences. If we lived in a free voluntary stateless society then yeah... the only borders that matter are property lines. But we don't live in that world. People flooding into a welfare state have consequences on the existing population. You don't have to be a xenophobic racist to think that. You can be, but one doesn't have to be.
I tire of these stupid debates.
Those that claim to be all about the will of the people seem to forget that when they don't like the "will of the people" as they define it.
99% of the time running my lightning node isn't a pain at all. But today is one of that 1%. Routing my own payments is failing while it seems like I have plenty of liquidity. And it is funny how often something happens when it is inconvenient for me to debug the issue.
Haven't read up on it but apparently the Danish gov had sterilization program up until the 1980's I think. Could be wrong on that but I've been hearing about it.
Yeah... but how deeply is the "orange man bad" mentality in Greenland? Logical people (present company) often forget how uncommon it is to use it.
This is my thought on the whole thing. I'm no expert but even with my limited knowledge of Greenland it also is apparent that they have had some mixed at best relations with their current owners.
As per usual, its not that I 100% disagree with the critics of this but its that their arguments seem to ignore way too much context. There are things going on here that are being completely ignored by most of the people talking about this. That doesn't tip it one way or another but the "Orange MAN bad!" crowd seems clueless as usual.
Not an Orange man fan but also not a NATO or EU fan either.
I'm pretty much the same but there are more people interested in things I am on SN than IRL as @SimpleStacker mentioned. I don't talk bitcoin and politics as much IRL
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Yeah, but the 49ers aren't "America's Team". That annoys people. I call them the perennially over-rated team.
So true
Also, by the 1990s the influence had spread to other evangelical leaders and many who never heard of a Scofield study Bible were being influenced.
American evangelical Christians in my experience are very ignorant of church history and even denominational differences. Very ignorant of Catholicism and blind to our Eastern brothers. The Orthodox church was pretty much invisible.
The Internet has allowed the curious to explore these things and I think it accounts for the increasing interest in many topics. That includes the historical teachings about the nation of Israel and the relationship to the current state.
No but I knew people who had them. Plenty in my circle were influenced by it.
Important thing to consider for those that might not be familiar with the Roman Catholic Church and how it both allows documents like this but also doesn't always hold a stance that is the teaching of the church.
The text is not a magisterial document or doctrinal teaching of the Catholic Church, but is a reflection prepared by the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews on current theological questions that have developed since the Second Vatican Council.
It therefore does not carry magisterial authority. Of course, when it repeats existing magisterial teaching, that is authoritative.
Non-Catholics like me often confuse the different voices and levels of authority when discussing "the position" of Catholics.
I think a Catholic might quibble with you on this.
2015 arrives and the church says this
The document in question actually starts with this preface.
The text is not a magisterial document or doctrinal teaching of the Catholic Church, but is a reflection prepared by the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews on current theological questions that have developed since the Second Vatican Council. It is intended to be a starting point for further theological thought with a view to enriching and intensifying the theological dimension of Jewish–Catholic dialogue.
Unlike many Christian traditions that can be misrepresented unintentionally Romans are probably the easiest to check on yourself due to their top down nature. Many of the other branches of our faith are much harder to pin down. The idea of Christian Zionism is novel as Knowles says.
I was raised in a tradition where Zionism was common and taught it to some extent. I was never really dogmatic about it but as I started asking questions and learned more about the history of the region it made less and less sense to me.
As I've studied Christian history and tradition it has completely fell apart. But really, you don't even need to do any of this. The slogans that I heard often repeated as a kid make no sense.
Pray for Israel. Well, yeah. We are to pray for all nations to find Christ. God will bless those that bless Israel. Well... aren't we commanded by Jesus to love our enemies and pray for those that seek us harm? Of course we should pray and bless Israel.
The real issue is the modern western merging of nation with state. Even if you hold a dispensational view of the Bible, does the state of Israel seem like a God fearing government? Its a secular government that is actually one that were it in place in the US most Evangelical Christians would oppose. In fact, they would probably consider at least as bad if not worse than the Democratic party.
Nations are people. States are government. Nations can exist without a state or a country. When many Christians hear Israel they may be hearing about the government there, but are thinking of the nation. The people. Americans also have this issue with their own government. When I have been critical of the US government many people have asked me why I hate America. I don't is my reply. I just think the regime is evil. I don't hate the people. I don't hate the country. I love them both. The state is another animal.
FWIW, I have no idea who this person is.