Awesome! Love to see it.

Offensive comments that are disrespectful and negatively affect the quality of conversation. I don't downvote when I just disagree with someone.

Very cool. I'll investigate this for Arké. Could make onboarding just a tad smoother, and manual seed backup is still possible for those who want it.

I think that could work, with the right audience and feature set. When you get into complex multi-sig flows or larger amounts, then I think people/organizations would be comfortable paying for software that allows them to sleep well. Not sure if it would work for something like Wallet of Satoshi. Sparrow could probably pull it off.

But as you said, that comes with a lot of responsibility that is not coding. And that's a big step to take.

Gotcha. I am about 1-2 weeks away of finalizing the main feature set, before moving into a polish and outreach phase. I'll make sure to add some more details then.

As far as funding development, I'd really love to solve the challenge of finding a sustainable model. Right now, I am thinking in-app payments to unlock additional features, like batch payments, that heavy users will appreciate. Benefit of this approach (rather than transaction fees, for example) is that it would be a software services business, which comes with less regulatory scrutiny. Plus, fees would be more competitive and the app would be fully functional for casual users. I also like, for example, how Snapchat+ bundles a whole bunch of small features that just make the app a bit more fun and useful. That's the theory, let's see what happens when it collides with reality.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, very understandable. I am very thankful you took your time to look through it, I honestly did not expect it to get much serious scrutiny at this point.

Goal with this first roadmap was to have something big picture up at all (rather than nothing). My sense is that many people who aren't builders don't have a good sense for the product phases and in which one a project might be at the moment. That might be too obvious for you, but I am not sure it is for everyone, based on the questions I got. I'll definitely keep your points in mind for upcoming updates.

If you'd like to test the app, you can sign up for TestFlight on the homepage. I'd love to hear what you make of it. It's gotten pretty stable with the latest bark beta release. Still a lot of small and medium things to work on, but it's getting there.

This type of reply is exactly why I've got you muted. You really are a drag on the quality of conversation here.

But they are not a decentralized network in the same way as Lightning.

Correct, they have different goals. Ark is a reaction to the difficulties of running a lightning node (including on mobile devices). It outsources some of the heavy lifting to the Ark server, while doing its best to maintain self-custody, etc. Different goals result in a different architectures. Good thing is that it's all interoperable and optional, and you can choose whichever one you want to use.

Small thing to note is that, at this point, the code for Spark servers is not public, while the one for Ark servers is.

I found this explainer video by Neil from Second (who work on an Ark implementation) super helpful: https://x.com/nwoodfine/status/1959967321214034268/video/1

One more to throw in the ring - the field got more professional (you can interpret that term as you wish) but bitcoin builders didn't. If you want to compete with the likes of Trust Wallet (50M downloads on the Play Store), you need to play a different game. Building tech and building products are different ambitions.

Not sure why anyone wouldn't mute him. Sure, push for product integrity, but do so in a respectful manner.

Is it really necessary to be rude?

And that's what's driving everyone to use AI - right now it does not have that clutter.

Unicorn at the top? I like it :)

Yes, for very practical reasons. Those were simply screenshots I already had. I try out a lot of wallets and always take screenshots as I go. Should have a bunch more in my photos that I can add.

As for versions, each screenshot can have a date or version attribute. But I don't have the time or ambition to create a perfect historical archive. If others chip in, sure, let's do it. But otherwise I would keep it more casual.

Heads up, this is a prototype demo. I've heard a lot of people ask for something like this over the years, but it's also a lot of work to maintain it. Curious to hear if you think this would be useful and if you would be interested in helping with the content. There's an issue for discussion here.

Thank you.

100%. Such an interesting phenomenon. I find that going back to the foundational assumptions is often a good approach. There is often some basic questionable leap that is being made and then everything on top of that is logical. Easy to look over the leap and get swept up in the logical part.

It is both hilarious and sad that he takes the antichrist stories literal. Someone seems to think they are particularly clever.

Original initiators were jarolrod and hebasto.