Maybe they can first focus on actually making it possible to withdraw bitcoin from their app, instead of throwing errors and having customer support belittle customers and refuse to help. Seems more useful and practical.

Cool. I used https://www.makeplayingcards.com for the Bitcoin Design Card Game. It was a test run to get 10 decks at pretty much the lowest price, but was very happy with the outcome. I am currently looking to do another run with a bigger quantity and also up the quality a bit (without breaking the bank). Fingers crossed.

Very cool. Where did you get these printed?

I like the idea. The title could use some clarification that it's for Cashu specifically.

Wonder if it's possible to add some type of down-time tracker or status page?

It would also be fantastic if every mint has a some type of public page where it presents itself, and possibly the admins who run it. We have to be able trust the mint, so the mint should have ways to demonstrate that it deserves that trust.

Nice conspiracy theory there...

Let's just use "₿s" and be done with it ;)

Color is also a variable. Lots of variations on this idea, too, that might be better for security and legibility.

Totally agree that it's more of a quick gut-check. In most cases, it would just take a split second to compare two of these.

Visual formatting (example) can make this a lot easier.

There's also the idea of identicons to create a unique graphic for a quick visual check (just has the chicken-end-egg problem since it requires both places that show the address to also show the visual).

Prequel by Rachel Maddow discusses this in detail.

I think more people will do so that we might think, but it might be a generational change and not something that happens in a few years.

Just one anecdote, but I spoke with someone recently who doesn't want to hold bitcoin because there is no "insurance". They want there to be a fallback/backup plan and someone to be able to help out when things to south. This person was specifically wanting for the government to be the backstop. Presumably, this person sees government as a trustworthy-enough societal coordination mechanism, probably based on personal experience (Others may obviously not see government the same way).

Whether people are capable or not really depends on what tools we, as builders, build for them. Generally, I think we should assume that people are smarter than we think.

Go for it, those are all public resources. I'm excited to see what people will come up with.

For covenants, we had a learning call last week (recording), and some conversation is happening here. Next, there was interest in exploring more specific use cases around scaling and congestion control, and do UI mock-ups around them.

Bitcoin Design also has a page with design challenges, one for covenants was added last week. Maybe something of interest on there.

Pretty much just Figma for all design work these days. Hoping that some day it will be Penpot.

Diagrams for a new page in the Bitcoin Design Guide to explain techniques for "fiat over lightning". More in this issue. I also post weekly updates on my open-source bitcoin design work here.

Oh yeah!!!

Thanks for bringing that up. There is a separate template in the same Figma file just for the passphrase further on the right. I don't think that's pushed to the public Figma community file yet, I'll take a look at that tomorrow.

The info in the coordination file is not really that sensitive, so you could just offer a print option, or a template to fill in relevant info. We have print templates for recovery phrases here, and could easily add ones for multi-sigs.

I am not sure I buy this concept.

For the American cars, the image on the left shows cars in many different colors at various angles. On the right, all cars are white and shown at identical angles. It also only includes cars of a certain category. Throw in a mini cooper, VW bus, or a Porsche and things look different. The inside of cars is drastically changing with electric vehicles and endless sensors and software.

Phones are interesting because they used to be just phones, and now they are computers (that we sometimes use to make calls). The screen took over. The most experimental stuff might be foldable screens and new ideas like the Rabbit R1(which might not even be a phone anymore). Cars are still cars, but phones are not just phones anymore (of course you can argue differently here).

As for hardware wallets, I hope we get to keep diversity and different types of devices with their own personalities and optimizations for different use cases. A DIY seed signer relies on cheap parts that can somewhat easily be put together by hobbyists. Quite different from a Bitkey. I like how different they feel as well. Since they are much simpler than cars and phones, maybe that will persist, like we have a ton of different alarm clocks, toasters, speakers, and other smaller electronic devices? Overall, I hope that people continue to feel that bitcoin is something special, and maybe they will then also want well-crafted devices that reflect that.

Or maybe, if software eats the world, we won't need them anymore, and every device we have will be a key - multisig making up for each individual key being less secure? We'll see.