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POLL: Stacker News Slogan

1012 sats \ 51 comments \ @sn 15h meta

The current Stacker News slogans (what is in the bio on X and nostr) are:

Reddit gives you upvotes. We give you bitcoin.

and

Trying to fix online communities with economics.

Which of the following is the best update?

Pay to post. Zap to like.28.9%

Browse less, learn more.31.6%

Say something with value or GFY.18.4%

Less slop, more zaps.21.1%

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290 sats \ 25 replies \ @k00b 15h

My favorite atm: "Spend to say. Earn to stay." (We've been dumping a bunch of these in chat this afternoon.)

102 sats \ 8 replies \ @deSign_r 8h

people usually will not come if they know they need to pay to post, because the crowd will compare with what else is available and always pt for the cheaper or more convenient option. Why one shuld pay to post here and reach a niche when can do the same on X or r/ and reach the masses?

I'd probably keep all the payments and rewards working in the background... hide it. Let people post freebies but don't let them know it is as such and has less visibility. They will get it at some stage.

Same for the rewards, give it away to those that deserve it, but don't make it a public thing or a hook for predators to join the competition... it's more about collaboration.

Last, just visualize and present what today is named sats as zaps, karma or points... they are no sats anymore, and people get confused by the sybil fees anyway.

102 sats \ 7 replies \ @028559d218 7h

This is what everyone said to ProtonMail when they said 'hey we're going to charge for premium email'...

'ya noone will pay for that it's already free.'

15 years later ProtonMail has 80 million users.

In other words people will pay where they find quality.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Scoresby 4h

I'm coming around to this view.

I used to be pretty adamant that there should always be free paths and that "pay to post" was not the most attractive aspect of SN, but my experiences on Reddit and X have left me feeling that a sizable group of people may be willing to pay some small amount to escape the constant bot, spam, ai slop fest without aggressive moderation.

The problem with freebie posts that are limited in visibility is that it's a horrible first experience. You sign up, you put some hard work into writing a post and it just dies and feels like nobody cares. Is the number of people who bounce because of that experience greater or less than the number of people who would bounce because they are told they have to pay to post?

102 sats \ 3 replies \ @deSign_r 4h

Cowboys will have freebies enabled and will be their job to zap and uplift good freebie content. maybe is not working like that yet

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Scoresby 4h

I have wild west mode enabled. the only freebie content that shows up in my feed are bios. Freebie comments never show up for me.

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 7h

They did not have it so explicit in their slogan

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 7h

I mean... it's not rocket science.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Aardvark 11h

I like it actually

102 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 15h

If we think it's better to not make it a tongue twister, we could do:

"Pay to post. Earn to stay."

Comparatively, it's boring, but it is explicit, brutally plain, and proposes a challenge.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 4h

It's funny how I actually have to think about what "earn to stay" means.

Pay to post is straightforward enough, i grasp it as I read. But "earn to stay" requires a double-take. This could be a good thing (as you pointed out elsewhere).

0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

I do not like that

64 sats \ 10 replies \ @k00b 15h

why for

103 sats \ 9 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

Good question. It was a visceral response. Something about it hurt my brain.

43 sats \ 5 replies \ @SimpleStacker 15h

How about "Come to earn. Stay to learn."

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 15h

Following on k00b's point that it should be weird and frustrating:

Burn to learn. Yearn to earn.

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

Should those be switched?

Maybe not. That is the order that worked on me.

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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 15h

Copywriting benefits from being weird like that. You might only remember a slogan for the pain it caused.

This slogan I have to read 10's of times to get comfortable with it. Every read digs its barbs deeper in my memory. Strangely, it makes perfect sense in terms of semantics and couldn't be shorter - it's just kind of a tongue twister.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

Good point. Enjoying it is less important than remembering it.

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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 15h

e.g. Trumps typos and misphrasings and factual inaccuracies are painful, but I never re-read a Joe Biden tweet 10 times to figure it out. I only vaguely recall Joe Biden having a presence on twitter as a result.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @rootmachine 15h

This one is really good.

371 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 15h

I like @Car's "The Front Page of Bitcoin". Even if it's not exactly true, it's true enough to not be false advertising.

If that's too bitcoin-specific, I'd go with something like, "Value-for-value online communities"

I think "Like Reddit, but we pay Bitcoin" is great for helping people understand what SN is, but I also think many people have a negative association of Reddit now

263 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 15h

The Reddit comparison is what peeked my interest, but ultimately I don't think SN's slogan should reference another site.

144 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 15h

I don't think SN's slogan should reference another site.

Yeah, I agree

152 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 15h

This one is a no brainer, @Car's living in 2030 and knows what's up

Automatically makes anyone in Bitcoin curious enough to at least check it out

125 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 8h

Wasn't something like:

It's like Hacker News, but we pay you in Bitcoin

if you like to keep it as comparison, I like:

X = noise SN = signal

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 6h

"be the signal"

133 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 14h

"Joakim Book bet good money on Prydx that we will die."

102 sats \ 1 reply \ @hasherstacker 13h

Come for the income. Stay for the outcome.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 3h

This is a pretty fun one.

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @unschooled 14h

honestly, as great as these all are i feel you've done something really great with the cowboy/western theme and none of these really reflects this.

imho, you have a strong brand and the slogan should keep leaning into that.

the social frontier of bitcoin

for a few sats more

we're not web 3, we're web free

yee-haw

prospectin' for bitcoin

fistfulls of bitcoin

where keyboard cowboys get paid in bitcoin

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

I've wondered about something really simple like "Be heard"

What's the biggest point of dissatisfaction with the rest of social media? What's the most direct way to address it?

For me, the biggest frustration was low engagement (both qualitatively and quantitatively).

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

Here's one that just came to me: "The Front Page of Bitcoin"

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 15h

Car already uses that all the time

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 15h

What are the odds?

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell 11h

Can we say something like

"real content pays off - in bitcoin"

That implicitly includes both the idea of giving and receiving zaps for good content, and each user will interpret it to the side of their interest. It also implicitly gives the idea that "being rewarded for real" is to receive bitcoin.