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Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext 6m

Ladies and gentlemen... may I present to you: the legendary Thomas Sowell

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTWDEYsRVE

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 11m

From DecentraSuze

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext 4m

OR retain your seed unless you're ready to face the consequences... 🤷‍♂️

That is pretty funny tho.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 34m

✌️

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 2h

TIL:

source

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Angie 2h

Un día fatídico 8 días con fiebre la causa la picada de un mosquito el desgraciado el y sus secuaces han conquistado todo el país esto está bien feo, cuba está en la mira de una película de terror sin un efecto especial solo mosquitos esclavizandonos. Hoy continúa el malestar.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 3h

Looks like we're getting crawled for training data. Surprise, your LLM is based now.

73 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 2h

Hey man, welcome to the big leagues. I'd rather have a LLM trained on stacker.news than one trained on reddit

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kontext 3h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4h

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4h

The lightning watch node went down! Force close any channels you have with it

140 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 5h

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 4h

I really like the graphics!! Thanks for sharing

118 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 7h

When you caught the flu:

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 5h

Have you played Exapunks or TIS-100?

102 sats \ 6 replies \ @k00b 8h

every lightning node is a bitcoin sidechain

157 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 6h

OR: every drivechain could have been a lightning channel.

/sorry paul/

278 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 6h

omg so many drivechainoors at TABConf this year

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 6h

I looked at it back in... 2014 or so? Now it's just slop to me.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h

only if every node have only one peer and they transact only through that channel, back and forth. But if you have more than one and each of those have also more than one, you are already interconnected with the main "chain". Also, both peers are using in fact the same chain, mainchain to open the channel.

Another situation is when you have more "private" lightning networks, as I described here: #843264

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 8h

i guess it depends on the definition, but i tend to think of ACINQ like it's a sidechain. an individual channel has chronological state, but i suppose it's not really "chaining" transaction history into blocks, nor maintaining chronological state across all channels in an interdependent way.

still, i like the metaphor and thinking about many well-defined psbts as a sidechain-like layering mechanism.

51 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h

then each UTXO is also a sidechain :)

33 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 9h

Also, this ChatGPT lit review is making me feel quite inadequate. It is freakin' long and pretty comprehensive (though I didn't check yet for hallucinations). It produced in 10 minutes what would have taken me weeks.

Still gotta check each individual paper and make sure Chat's claims are accurate, but... dang.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 9h

The change to only allow real Bitcoin for users who connect their own Lightning wallet (with others relegated to “Cowboy Credits” play-money) introduces friction in the onboarding and usage.

Lol, ChatGPT called cowboy credits "play money"

78 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 9h

CC = WoW money

33 sats \ 4 replies \ @SimpleStacker 9h

@k00b

Do you know what Steemit is? It came up in a ChatGPT lit review on micropayments in discussion platforms. (I'll post about this soon)

It looks like a shitcoin version of stacker.news

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 5h

I used to use it back in my sh$tcoin days. SN so much better!

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 9h

I didn't know about until after I started SN. But lots of people brought it up over the years. It also came up in the The Anarchists. I never looked super deep into it.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 26m

Hey that’s Juan!

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 9h

oh steemit appeared long before the great bitcoin fork... but now is just a lost shitcoin desert SN is far beyond their imagination...

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @AG 10h

Starting in 10 min @oshigood is up for something... #1262213

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oshigood 7h

hehe. New threads, come snag before Nov 1

https://oshigood.us/product/oshi-embroidered-logo-tee

43 sats \ 3 replies \ @Akg10s3 14h

"Invest in knowledge, because it always produces the best benefits"

"KNOWLEDGE = POWER☕

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @beyond_turbulence 5h

Knowledge is the skyscraper that gives your fleet a panoramic view, turning distant horizons into charted territory like the transformation of uncharted terrain. Knowledge is the high ground. Elevate your fleet!

74 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 5h

RIP, 2023.

"Invest in an OpenAI subscription" "Knowledge = Power"

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 4h

😅

201 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 14h

🤙Full write up about what we did in the Yucatán a couple weeks ago at Startup Day.

#1262198

Legends @BitcoinNews 💫

109 sats \ 3 replies \ @carter 14h

Please talk to your pets about ball addiction #1262091

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14h

Step 1, learn how to talk to pets

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @carter 14h

I can recommend this book if your pet is a cat

https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Your-About-Safety/dp/045149492X

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14h

Wish I had known about this book earlier. Poor Fluffles

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @carter 14h

when people tell you who you are believe them

1635 sats \ 4 replies \ @optimism 14h

Can report that I'm able to reproduce @SimpleStacker's reported issues with IBD on a Raspberry Pi 4 w/ Core 29.1. Eg block 796776:

2025-10-22T13:41:33Z [bench]   - Load block from disk: 240.23ms
2025-10-22T13:41:33Z [bench]     - Sanity checks: 11.34ms [2958.27s (3.71ms/blk)]
2025-10-22T13:41:33Z [bench]     - Fork checks: 0.31ms [135.27s (0.17ms/blk)]
2025-10-22T13:42:08Z [bench]       - Connect 704 transactions: 34679.36ms (49.260ms/tx, 3.470ms/txin) [51837.88s (65.06ms/blk)]
2025-10-22T13:42:08Z [bench]     - Verify 9995 txins: 34716.35ms (3.473ms/txin) [51906.08s (65.15ms/blk)]
2025-10-22T13:42:08Z [bench]     - Write undo data: 14.97ms [3908.57s (4.91ms/blk)]
2025-10-22T13:42:08Z [bench]     - Index writing: 0.09ms [39.59s (0.05ms/blk)]
2025-10-22T13:42:08Z [bench]   - Connect total: 34744.00ms [59248.99s (74.36ms/blk)]

Going to let it run (may take up to 20 days to finish lol). Almost 35 seconds to verify 10k txins is a lot.

The process is (logically) CPU-bound on b-msghandler because that's where ConnectBlock is ultimately called from, and high soft interrupt; which I expect to be from using wifi instead of wired (but I figured that since raspibolt is explicitly configuring for usage of that, that most operators would run it like that):

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14h

Dude, thank you so much! Mind if I share it here? https://github.com/raspibolt/raspibolt/issues/1482

Can you help me understand further? Is CPU the bottleneck, not hard disk speed or bandwidth? Would connecting from an ethernet cable have helped? And lastly, is it due to UTXO set bloat, or simply due to larger blocks?

Sorry for all the questions, haha

30 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 14h

Feel free to share it with anyone, though note that it's right now only a confirmation that it can be reproduced. Next steps for me:

Let it finish so that I can graph and analyze the full IBD end-to-end for patterns.
Start comparing BenchConnectBlock across different ARM hardware. ¹
If there are visible differences in bench, profile it. Otherwise make a new bench until it shows the differences, and profile that.
Attempt to optimize the code
Do a PR if 4 has outcome

I aim to do 2 and 3 in parallel to the IBD whenever I find time.

Is CPU the bottleneck, not hard disk speed or bandwidth?

It is for my test, so I'd say "yes". It's also what I expected.

Would connecting from an ethernet cable have helped?

I don't expect that, because txin verification doesn't depend on network - it's all done between disk, cache and cpu.

And lastly, is it due to UTXO set bloat, or simply due to larger blocks?

The block I gave as an example above contains mostly consolidation of p2sh utxo. So in this case, we're actually seeing bad performance on utxoset unbloat.

because for example the IBD I did on an RK3588 earlier this year went much faster. There are some cpu feature differences between that and a Pi4. This would also suggest that a Pi5 would perform much better because it has some more CPU features built in. ↩

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 10h

Ok, I'll wait for more concrete results before sharing anything. That Github issue is closed anyway so unlikely to get any real attention.

The block I gave as an example above contains mostly consolidation of p2sh utxo. So in this case, we're actually seeing bad performance on utxoset unbloat.

Interesting. But we wouldn't need to do this much validation if the UTXO set wasn't so bloated to begin with, right? So I think it's fair to chalk it up to the sphere of problems caused by UTXO bloat?

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 7h

I'd argue that bearer instruments (metals, coin/cash, bitcoin) have consolidation as a part of the natural cycle, especially for businesses. So I'd argue that it's fair to chalk it up to having a utxo system, but not to bloat.

200 sats \ 16 replies \ @ek 14h

What I learned working at SN for almost 3 years:

Users can be really retarded, but their experience cannot be wrong.

I had to look up my first PR to make sure it’s been 3 years

50 sats \ 15 replies \ @plebpoet 13h

the artist hates the gallery visitors

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @ek 13h

Yes, because they don’t get the art haha

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 13h

In the case of software, it's the developer's fault.

In the case of art, I'm not sure.

21 sats \ 12 replies \ @DarthCoin 13h

the art...

0 sats \ 11 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 12h

the visitor...

Justin Sun Paid $6.2 Million For A Banana Duct-Taped To A Wall #778322

20 sats \ 10 replies \ @SimpleStacker 11h

haha this thread is great

30 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin 10h

Sometimes SN is weirder than nostr

21 sats \ 8 replies \ @SimpleStacker 10h

It's a wonderfully weird place with wonderfully weird people

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0 sats \ 15 replies \ @DarthCoin 16h

@k00b please add this ticker on SN 1 sat = 1 CC

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 16h

1 sat ≠ 1 sat 1 sat ≠ 1 CC

depends on who we're talking about

0 sats \ 13 replies \ @DarthCoin 16h

In fact for you, to receive 1 sat, it cost 1sat +30% for somebody else to send you 1 sat.... but if I send you 1 CC it cost nothing more than 1 CC.

0 sats \ 12 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 16h

That’s not what I meant, it’s got to do with the trust score. Like, my 1 sat zap doesn’t hit the same as yours, even if it’s the same amount! hahaha

133 sats \ 10 replies \ @optimism 15h

What's trust score got to do with it?

I zap you 100 sats you get 70 sats ~~(minus routing fees in some cases)~~, territory will get 21 sats, rewards will get 9 sats. (Edit: per @ek's comment below, this will cost the sender routing fees) I zap you 100 CCs you get 70 CCs, territory will get 21 sats, rewards will get 9 sats. (no routing fees)

Wait for it...

Therefore CCs are the more cost-efficient money within SN, because there is one less layer of rent-seeking.

~lol

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 9h

The splits should be more obvious soon. 💅

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 9h

Looking awesome.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 15h

Just a way to look at it. When you count trust score and daily rewards, a sat/cc from you ain’t worth the same as mine. Like, in ~AI land, yours hit harder because your trust score’s higher.

44 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 14h

Rewards aren't covering the last 30% though, it only covers 9% at most, plus whatever gets subsidized, plus whatever boosts happen that day.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 14h

Yeah, you’re right. Just saying, sats from high-trust stackers hit harder, because they boost other people’s daily rewards. That’s the angle I’m coming from. Not saying you’re wrong or anything. I once came up with this: #786724 Ahahah

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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 15h

now you are talking about trustcoin not sats

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 15h

This is the correct answer except the receiver will always receive 70 sats if you zap 100 sats. 3% of the zap amount is reserved for the routing fee from SN to the receiver. If the fee ends up as less, more go into rewards (up to the max of 9%) iirc.

Maybe that's what you meant, but I just wanted to clarify.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 14h

If the fee ends up as less, more go into rewards (up to the max of 9%) iirc.

I still wrote it wrong haha.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 15h

Thanks, adjusted.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 15h

no worries, this stuff can easily make someone's head spin

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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 16h

required daily reminder: we are here to pay for our shitposting

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 16h

Day 664 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 450 sats on 21Oct2025! Running total: 429,635 sats!

Yesterday's comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 17h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 17h

Happiness Journal 22/10/25

Decided to stay back after Staff Contact Time to help two kids —who were my easy prey at the student care centre — with their Young Water Scientist SLS lesson. After that, I thought of zooming home immediately but chanced upon a colleague who was hard at work using the OAS machine. Being the loyal being that I was, I switched plans without hesitation and ate my Deepavali briyani meal while waiting for him to finish his job. Then, we strode off to the MRT station. Felt like I had returned to my schooling days in which I never had to move alone.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

I will wait until tomorrow for more votes on this post #1260936 before giving the bounty.

I think I will reward also the 2nd and 3rd position. Please make your votes for the best ones.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner 18h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

wrong. people still go back to use fiat and visa cards. As long as they do not stop doing that, bitcoin can be stopped.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 18h

My cat, every time somebody ring at the door:

... then when he finds out that is not the police he's doing this

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 18h

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG0RA 18h

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