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549 sats \ 14 replies \ @Kruw 24 Jul \ on: Bot & Slop we should mute meta

Here's a ruleset that might help stop trash from spreading:

  • New accounts only get 2-3 freebie posts.
  • Freebies go into debt for and must repay anything they still owe when creating their 3rd/4th post
  • Freebie posts appear as "Anon" until its debt is paid off
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50 sats \ 10 replies \ @Scoresby 24 Jul

@k00b has interesting thoughts about debt.

I like the idea of freebie posts appearing as "anon" -- even better if the sats zapped to such posts go to the reward pool or territory owner.

Unfortunately, pretty much the only reason freebies exist is to help a user who is not familiar with bitcoin and who doesn't have any lightning sats to get started. It might make more sense just to remove freebies altogether.

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124 sats \ 9 replies \ @Kruw 24 Jul

It can be even stricter: The first freebie must be paid off (by the new anon or other zappers) before the second freebie is granted.

  • Zappers that pay off other's freebie debt get a bonus from the zap side of the rewards pool.
  • Downzappers whose moderation survives 24h gets a bonus from the downzap side of the rewards pool
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91 sats \ 8 replies \ @Scoresby 24 Jul

Some kind of inclusion of downzapping in reward ranking may be merited.

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130 sats \ 7 replies \ @optimism 24 Jul

Some kind of inclusion so you can circulate your own downzap sats? I'm sure that king downzapper from these past few days would appreciate the cashback. To suppress more posts and be a more efficient oligarch.

I say make them pay.

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153 sats \ 6 replies \ @Scoresby 24 Jul

I believe that is why we haven't included downzap in reward ranking thus far, but it means that downzapping is entirely altruistic.

In the case of the recent wave of bots, it'd be nice if there was a way to incentivize hunting them down and downzapping them.

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249 sats \ 5 replies \ @AG OP 24 Jul

@DarthCoin is always tagging plankers and shitcoiners with memes in their bios. It is indeed useful and fun lol.

How about we start upzapping and downzapping profiles? So downzapped profiles will need to create much better content to be able to rise on the LIT homepage.

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103 sats \ 4 replies \ @optimism 24 Jul

New account costs nothing. Doesn't scale.

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126 sats \ 3 replies \ @AG OP 24 Jul

I don't get how is that related? Stackers are already scored, so downzaps could lower the profile score and upzaps will increase it.

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6 sats \ 2 replies \ @supratic 24 Jul

A really bad, bad idea. Creating debt makes no sense... fiat-minded people love debt and will leverage it as much as they can.

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442 sats \ 1 reply \ @Kruw 24 Jul

If you limit that leverage to 1 post, you can terminate the "uncooperative" path in the prisoner's dilemma.

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63 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic 24 Jul

I'm ok with 2-3 freebies, it actually incentivises newbies to experience SN for free and migh give the opportunity to get some sats or ccs. But bringing that into debt, is just too much, and we know from experience debt can only grow and never be paid back.

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