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And well, Bitcoin is still alive at the end of the day (as always).
The miners laid their cards on the table, demonstrating who's in charge, and in the end, the marketing and the noise achieved nothing.
Don’t forget Bitcoin is a three headed monster.
Miners can be put down if they step out of line as well
How? UASF? What would you change in the approach so that it won't fail next time?
Got to read the book block size wars. UASF with overwhelming node runner support can hurt miner incentives. That is why we have SegWit.
Bip-110 didn’t have large support amongst the user base. A few individuals tried to force their changes and didn’t get broad support. Many Bitcoiners listened to their proposals and wasn’t convinced.
People who say the miners won haven’t read the block size wars historical record.
Thanks. I was there and am familiar with what went down. The bitcoin business I was working with at the time ran under hard SLA so I spent a lot of time writing monitoring for everything. Not the amateur weak sauce we see nowadays that is just a function of bribing influencers and bots hallucinating code.
My question was "What would you change?", though. Put a UASF activation threshold? iirc we had that for segwit. Do a real MASF without flag day first to not be perceived as an authoritarian little fucktard? iirc we had that with segwit. Don't do lot=true from the start? iirc we didn't have lot at all with segwit. Name the flaws. Then maybe, when a real, honest need arises in the future, we don't fuck up like Luke & co just did.
Remember though: you cannot do an activation without miners. Not even an UASF. So if you alienate everyone, you're not going to get anything done.
I don’t think their movement was genuine.
You are asking me something the community is still struggling with. I don’t think governance has been solved. One think I would do differently is try not to alienate people who disagree my position.
If we accept that haters be hatin' (i.e. every autist will hate you if you were to use soft skills and every politician will hate you if you make hard rules) then trying to actually build consensus may be a great idea. Polarization doesn't help in that though, but who is going to build the bridge?
Yes, definitely 👌 The day will come when no more Bitcoin will be mined, but I think that in the meantime, miners are part of the essence of Bitcoin.
good zap theme, I support it for special occasions.
another one on BIP-110 side at 961633
wonder how long those miners are willing to torch EH until they switch back to main chain.
wen POW change?
I'm just going to mute it all I think. And I mean on SN, not elsewhere, elsewhere has been muted by leaving it behind. That, is truly fixing the filters.
Irony is always rich
Rug the spammers, the pedos
Abscond from twitter
Vaguely wondering if Luke will be outed as a pedo one of these days.
Dude's weird as all hell and it's normally the loudest crusaders who have something to hide, you know how it is. Not to mention his weird ass tweets on age of consent laws.
Just sayin'.
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that was kind of boring
mechanic says: "I think we are definitely forked. We are two chains from here on out."
and he's out.
they're closing down their livestream
Yup they are wrapping up. Guess they are mad at Antpool and Foundry. Anyone mining on Luke chain is absolutely cooked!! Ahh and they are saying miners have taken over bitcoin!!! Apparently they completely ignored the block size wars
Weren't they already mad at antpool and foundry?
Possibly but on the live stream they were complaining alot
I would like to watch this
I found it #1543652
I could go and search their twitter threads for accusations. But I just went there and I closed it because they're just doubling down. Calling people to switch because of doublespend risk. what the fork.
oh dear, knut suggested shutting off their live stream
It’s embarrassing!! Not many people are on it. The are getting killed in the comments. Crazy so many people fell for this.
I doubt they will ever admit they were wrong. Real losses are now had because some miner got luke coin. Proof work work will bite you in the ass if you are on a worthless chain.
According to Ocean there is still 15EH pointed at their bip-110 pool.
Blocks will take a long time!! Not nearly enough hash at the current difficulty.
Yeah I'm not arguing, I'm quantifying!
im surprised theyve even gotten 1 block this early into it.
source
https://mempool.space/tx/fd1a2b41fbae10adfcc44b0e3e6d6a4ff8679ac86f1da1386a0ff2263522143e
OP_RETURN
beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves🔱
https://twiiit.com/mononautical/status/2086190437241598192
i wonder if Ocean will ever resume lightning payouts after this ?
They will. Give it 144 blocks
BIP110 supporters live stream, if you want to hear that side:
https://www.youtube.com/live/h3X6viAOBhU
I tuned it. They are blaming exchanges and large economic nodes for not signaling support. Saying asking for miner support was a blunder on thier part. Then they started worrying about when the next block will come in. On bitcoin optech pod merch said blocks will come in very slowly! Let see if that continues to play out
Almost makes me feal bad for those poor schmucks.
Hey it happens to a lot of people. Think of all the bitconers who got psyop’ed into thinking that Coldcard was good product. All the signs were there we just choose to ignore them.
Same with Bip-110. If you look under the hood all the signs were there that hey this might not be a good idea. But when you get people in thier feels and think they are sticking it to “Big- Bitcoin” (while streaming on youtube and taking super chat money) you end up with sheep getting slaughtered and humbled.
But its okay. Mistakes are always made. Own them and get back to it!
I was big fan of Kratter until this bip-110 broke his brain. Between this and coldcard I am drastically cutting back on my consumption of folks who try to make a living on podcasting and youtube.
He is not well. Everything he posts these days is paranoid conspiracy slop. Looks kind of sickly to me too.
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The Whitney Webb black pill hustle
Good outcome.
smart
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an ocean miner adds to the non bip110 chain...
its nice to know so early into this they aren't just lying about mining choice
It was @siggy47 with his Avalon using a different pattern.
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INSIDE JOB
Doesn’t Luke own Ocean?
Doesn't matter. Miners can use custom templates there.
I think it does. Doesn’t matter about the template you still pay a pool fee. They don’t provide the service for free. Braiins pool fee is 2%
I must have misunderstood your point. I thought you were confused by the how.
Long time ago ocean raised a funds via the private markets. The parent company of Ocean is called something that starts with M. Started by Luke. So Luke has taken VC money to either start or sustain ocean.
So I was thinking of the incentives for ocean and Luke’s company to profit off this bip-100 endeavor
Default stratum is back to non-110 too now - haven't seen it flipflop since 20 min or so
Why is that happening?
Spotted the switch back to BIP-110 around 6:18pm eastern time
Am I truly the only one seeing this?
No idea! I'm hoping that b10c has retained logs of that and maybe we can see what's what
yes, i think that is maybe a point for the Ocean folks: hashers more like miners.
Why would ocean mine an invalid block?!! XD
y tu, Brutus?
Sigh. Making fun of this level of retardation isn't even sporting. It's like picking on a disabled kid.
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You cannot make this up.
What the fork is going on with my forking zaps?
which site is this?
https://fork.observer/?network=mainnet
thanks!
So that block the miner got 3.25 of luke coin. Where to sell it? Or are they going to hold it? The risk of mining on that tip for worthless coins makes no sense.
The real question is: how do you assign ordinal values to sats on a split chaintip?
That is a question for Casey!
Unfortunately they capitulated so quickly that there aren't enough blocks to make the coinbase spendable, so there is no collectible to be had.
I shall generate entropy for my next seed via the randomised trajectories of BIP-110er tears.
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Ocean (default) stratum is flip-flopping chaintips. Seen it go back and forth.
Cope.
https://twiiit.com/GrassFedBitcoin/status/2086175688336556130
the hubris
The Knots / BIP-110 episode has never felt organic. Wouldn't be surprised if the Ripple scammers or equivalent were behind the scenes manipulating useful idiots.
Probably the dumbest thing I have encountered in my Bitcoin tenure thus far. Yes, even more retarded than BSV, which at least was successful at its intended purpose (a scam).
Oh well.
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what now? 👀
nothing. you eat a watermelon and watch the shitshow how is going.... pufff
it's so juicy:)
@siggy47 you still mine with Ocean ?
I'm not mining at all right now. I'm hiding in a hole.
I knew it was you all along, with your Avalon, inside the Ocean pool, but mining a different pattern
sneaky boy... you hit them from inside.
INSIDE JOB!
eating with plastic forks?
ahahahahah
I wish I had a fork. I'm sucking ramen. I sold my boxer shorts
Those are briefs. I like boxers.
Boxer Briefs!
ocean bip-110 dashboard claims to have 19EH
approx 1EH dropped off there now
Cool animation on Orange Surf's monitor:
https://bip110.orange.surf/live.html?b=961632
it's quite cute.
Predyx market doesn't like BIP110's odds:
Signaling looking brutal as well
Seems the majority was wrong
watching @0xB10C's livestream, seems like Ocean and and a Braiins solo? are mining on the fork coin, most other pools are mining on normal BTC.
https://www.youtube.com/live/_OE30u25mcA
forks!
forkception
Dang the fork animation requires reloading. And it falls behind the bottom navbar. Ugh. Too rushed.
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS ISS TOO FUNNY
forks!
Moment of truth.
woop. fork. good luck.
1 block left...
All this time I could’ve set my default zap to 110 sats for trolling. Missed opportunity.
major missed opportunity
cool!
Just a reminder: this is who (they tell you) hacked Bitfinex few years ago and stole your BTC.
The allegedly "hacker" is now free on the streets and you didn't get back your BTC but you got tethers in exchange. ARE YOU STILL EATING THAT SHIT LIE ?
https://xcancel.com/HeatherReyhan/status/2085851424160686285
another useless status there
what is this one about?
3.1250
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1.5625
IYKYK
Halving
not better in blocks?
okay, now we have two utile
1 050 000 -
Just do the math! Ahh
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Nothing like waking up on a morning you wanted to sleep in to instead screaming kids next door. At least I have coffee...
new post 👀 How to Set Up BTCPay Server Better After the Hack?
Some hater took down my bitcoin sticker I posted up in my neighborhood
do you have a pic of the sticker?
I don’t think so .
Was it you?
maybe, i'd need to see the pic first
Why don't you post a pic of the sticker you stole?
what is memetic warfare?
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P.S. dirty assholes make shitty memes; clean up ur assholes (& noses & hands);
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You only need to click it 3 times for it to make sense again.
on a scale of 1-10 how inaccurate is it?
inaccurate? It's been on the spot, so 1?
I was just hinting at the fact that the only valid SN header is of course
1sat=1satthe only that matters
Okay. Last night on SNL I misdescribed the fork as consensus enforcing already, so I’m appropriately suspicious of myself again.
Oh! Yeah, they're just forking prematurely. By "design". It's all part of the plan.
I didn't watch it live because I was exhausted last night and I haven't found a moment of comfort to watch the replay yet either - shame on me.
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Nice!
haha, replace "Pleb" with "Influencoor" and the meme might more sense
Somebody posted this week a ColdCard losses vs. custodian losses chart, but I can't find it now. Does anyone mind sharing that?
this one?
#1542179
Yes! Thank you!
Good morning, everyone... The question is, what do you think about the Coldcard incident? Does it reinforce the idea that self-custody is the best option—and that the more security layers we add, the better—and that we shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket, but rather diversify across multiple wallets?
the guy in the corner fighting the cat on nostr 😂;
SN auto-withdrawal creating too many invoices and without paying it, Rizful locked my wallet again, is there a bug? any stackers experiencing it 🤔
@k00b @sox @Scoresby
Yes, they contacted me about failing autowithdrawals. I have fixed and will deploy shortly.
I'm sorry. I created a regression in authwithdraw backoff recently.
I have not experienced that behavior and until quite recently (two days ago) I was using Rizful as my primary.
Do you see a lot of errors in the SN wallet all area, or is it just Rizful providing the error?
its something that impacts all wallets but rizful (appropriately) has a rate limiter which defends against our bug. shipping a fix now
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Is this the Red Team fixing vulns ?
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stops clapping .. Comrade, are you insinuating against the Red Team?
How Red Team is knocking devs doors...
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