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34 comments \ @saloon 20 May 2023 \ yesterday

This is a thread for random discussions that gets posted everyday at 5am central.

Tell us what you're doing today, ask questions, or vent about your life. Whatever you want, let it rip!

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @cryptocoin 21 May 2023

Is there a mismatch between when I see the notification

"you stacked n sats in rewards"

and when those rewards show up in my Satistics?

25 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 21 May 2023

There shouldn’t be

1361 sats \ 3 replies \ @cryptocoin 21 May 2023

Ok, I've looked into it and, on my account at least, there is a mismatch.

I was shown the notification that I "stacked n sats" at likely midnight CDT this morning (Sunday May 21st), and that appears to be for the amount my satistics shows earned ... but without a datestamp I can only guesstimate that it was received to my wallet later in the day on May 19th.

The reason I was confused was not just the timing difference but that the amount was different. Stacked 695 sats in rewards says the notification (692 sats for top posts \ 3 sats for tipping top content early), but in satistics I see exactly 692.548.

The prior notification amount matches .... the notification shows "stacked 298 sats in rewards" (298 sats for top posts) and the Satstics corresponds ... 298.835.

In looking into this ... I was thinking maybe Earn just wasn't considering the amount from "tipping top content early", but an earlier Satistics entry shows 208.724 and that matches with the corresponding notification of 208 in rewards (208 sats for tipping top content early). So the Earn entry in Satistics did, in that instance, include the amount for "tipping top content early".

But then I go back to May 12th, and I see in Notification: stacked 538 sats in rewards (364 sats for top posts \ 115 sats for top comments \ 58 sats for tipping top content early) but in Satistics the corresponding entry shows just 115.246.

So it appears that when computing the entry for Satistics it is getting confused when there are multiple sources for earning.

I have:

one Satistics entry where it had the 692 sats "for top posts" but excluded the 3 sats "for tipping top content early"
another Satistics entry that was correct where the ONLY earning was "for tipping top content early"
another Satistics entry where it had ONLY sats "for top comments" (and excluded sats "for top posts" and sats "for tipping top content early").

So ultimately, the problems are:

Notifications are appearing maybe 12 to 24 hours after the Earn transaction appears and the balance is increased.
Earn amount will sometimes be less than the Notification, when the amount earned comes from multiple income sources.

25 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 21 May 2023

I suspect satistics is just misreporting the amount. Both the notification and the satsistics use the exact same data source … the satistics query (over the same data source) is probably just wrong.

I’ll take a look now.

I don’t understand the timing problem you’re seeing if you are seeing one.

25 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 21 May 2023

I've looked into this more and this isn't a bug. It's just a different display of the same information given the different UX goals of each page.

In notifications, we want to give you the information you might want to know about in a concise way. So we group "reward" notifications that are adjacent in the notification list into a single "reward" notification. So if you received rewards on Day 1 and then again on Day 2, and there were no other notifications between Day 1 rewards and Day 2 rewards, you'll only see one reward notification in your notifications which add Day 1 and Day 2 notifications together.

If you imagine you mostly tip on SN and don't post/comment, if we didn't group them like this, your notifications would be mostly a list of reward notifications (which stackers were annoyed by and called "spam").

In satistics, we want to give you all the information we have about changes to your money (and also when that change happened relative to other changes). We don't group anything. (I'll add the time it happened to this list because I know people want that.)

(692 sats for top posts \ 3 sats for tipping top content early), but in satistics I see exactly 692.548.

This is a case of grouping. Day 1 you received a "reward" for 692.548 sats. Day 2 you received a reward for 3.947 sats. You should see both in satistics and separate. You'll see them combined in your notifications.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin 21 May 2023

So if you received rewards on Day 1 and then again on Day 2, and there were no other notifications between Day 1 rewards and Day 2 rewards, you'll only see one reward notification in your notifications which add Day 1 and Day 2 notifications together.

Oh, I did not know that. That's an elegant solution to the "notifications can get to be spammy" problem.

Day 2 you received a reward for 3.947 sats. You should see both in satistics and separate. You'll see them combined in your notifications.

And yes, I now see that entry for 3.947 sats earned. Not sure how I glossed over it earlier.

Anyway, thanks for spending part of your Sunday looking into this.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 21 May 2023

Bitcoin is much more than money.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 21 May 2023

Fun day playing with my boys!!!

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @gnilma 20 May 2023

Went on Fountain just now to look for something to listen to and saw this

Out of curiosity, you guys doing advertisements now?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 May 2023

They've been doing them for a while. That's where I heard about SN.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 20 May 2023

Just on Fountain

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 21 May 2023

sweet!

83 sats \ 1 reply \ @nkmg1c_ventures 20 May 2023

Taking a dive into math of transformers

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 20 May 2023

circuits or cartoon robots?

50 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 20 May 2023

Raining in my neck of the woods. Just enjoying some coffee with my puppy dog laying under the table while my wife and daughter are making some brunch. My daughter is 4 and loves cracking eggs so there definitely will be a mess to clean up.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @gnilma 20 May 2023

This reminded me of my daughter when she was 4 and first learned to cook. Her first dish was over-and-easy eggs and I still remember holding her hand to help her flip the eggs.

She is turning 12 this year, almost taller than my wife, and can cook a whole meal for the family plus wash the dishes. Kids grow up so fast; sometimes I wish time would stand still so I can just have a few more moments with them as little kids.

Wish you a great time and a nice day with your family!

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 21 May 2023

Thanks. I know what you mean. We have a 12 year old as well and it seems like yesterday that he was 4. I can remember taking him to his first baseball game and he brought his glove and couldn't understand why he couldn't go on the field with the players because he had a glove too. Haha, kids are the best.

Thanks for inspiring the trip down memory lane.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 20 May 2023

😆

83 sats \ 5 replies \ @faithandcredit 20 May 2023

It seems the thing that unites most people around Bitcoin is the number go up. And its not healthy. But due to its decentralized nature it will likely sort itself out. I am not sure excactly what my point is btw. Have a nice day

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @greggraham 20 May 2023

I'm not looking to get super rich, but I would like for my savings to not lose value. I'm also concerned how the banking system is being used to control people.

50 sats \ 3 replies \ @lv99_slacker 20 May 2023

"Number go up" is what brings most people (especially in the west) to bitcoin. It's what initially brought me to bitcoin. It's been said by some people that it takes a couple of touches to gain a greater understanding of the "what" and "why" of bitcoin. Frankly, it's taken me a year, and I still have much to learn. I haven't even set up my own lightning node yet.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @m00ninite 21 May 2023

Unless you're very technical (you can run a server and troubleshoot errors), I'd say you're fine just using a non-custodial LN wallet like Breez. Running your own infrastructure is interesting and rewarding, but nerve-wracking.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 20 May 2023

Time to get started

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @faithandcredit 20 May 2023

I have never truly run a bitcoin node or an LN node despite being interested in bitcoin for many years

66 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 20 May 2023

What happened to SN being down? I felt like a junkie needing his fix.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OneOneSeven 20 May 2023

#181344

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 20 May 2023

SN on twitter said it was a DDos attack

70 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 20 May 2023

Day 35 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

__@_'-'

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 20 May 2023

👍

150 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 20 May 2023

I woke up early ready for the new day, feeling good., ready for whatever the new day will bring.

Then I remembered that I have a dentist appointment.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @BlokchainB 20 May 2023

Ahh shit. Hope they don’t drill for gold. That ol that tooth looks fine but let’s take precaution and drill on it and fix it. Then bill you more than just for a cleaning and check up!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 20 May 2023

Just got back.$435 for a routine cleaning! I'm looking for a new dentist

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 20 May 2023

My goodness! Cleanings and check up should be sub $150 right?

Did they rub your feet while they cleaned your teeth?

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 20 May 2023

Well, that did include a happy ending!

JK. I feel very ripped off, even taking into account NY prices.