How will an individual in the EU retain bitcoin privacy without risk of being discovered in the future?
21 sats \ 1000 boost \ 6 comments \ @Brunswick1 12 Apr 2022 bitcoin
On the 14th of March 2022 I posed these questions to Stacker News
Question: Are there mitigating technologies that would circumvent a government-enforced AML whitelist in:
  • A technology that already exists that is part of Bitcoin?
  • A technology that already exists in another crypto that would prevent this regulation (that can be incorporated into bitcoin)?
  • A proposal for a technology that has not yet been implemented that could avoid this problem?
  • Does L2/lightning already avoid this problem?
  • Is there an enhancement to L2/lightning that could avoid this problem?
  • Is this not a real problem?
The only response was a somewhat valid troll from @DarthCoin, and his conclusion is that Lightning fixes this. However, this is not necessarily true since you won't be able to run a self-custody lightning node without jumping through government regulatory hoops.
16 days later, on the 31st of March, the EU passed a resolution doing exactly what I asked whether there is any mitigation for this problem.
I have yet to find any proposal other than pushing self-custody bitcoin into the underground in such a regime. Does this mean that the only hope for Bitcoin under a oppressive government is to hide assets and do everything possible to obscure their expenditures?
  • What when the today's privacy measures are found to be insufficient in the future?
  • Is it not an unacceptable risk when you could simply comply and register your self-custody wallet with the registered agent or transfer your funds to your government registered subcutaneously implanted RFID wallet/identity transponder?
The question still stands: How do you spend into a bitcoinized economy when the government can see every transaction on the chain, and can punish both parties if either wallet isn't found on the whitelist (registered to an individual or business)?
Is civil disobedience (ignoring the regulation) the only solution?
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 12 Apr 2022
The only response was a somewhat valid troll from @DarthCoin
Thanks for mentioning me. I am not trolling you. Just want to wake the fuck up. Once and for all.
And I have a serious question for you: WHO is the government? Who is the government to tell you what to do and how you do with your own money?
Why do you think a government (something imaginary) can have authority and jurisdiction over your own money, WITHOUT your consent?
You always go back into being a obedient shitizen, but never question the base of gov authority over your own money and that's why always mahy bitcoiner fail to understand the true meaning of: FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, FUCK THE BANKS.
If you continue to live in gov cage, you will never be able to get out, no matter you want to do (legally as you want to say) because you will be always have to obey their rules (that actually do not apply top a sovereign individual, only to shitizens).
STEP out of the cage and be a damn sovereign individual. If you are not capable to understand these aspects, I am sorry but you will be always a slave of the system, no matter how much you want and love bitcoin, it will OT help you.
I will give a hint: please watch all the material (and read the about section) of this channel: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/sovereignman/ You will understand more (if you are still able to step out of the cage)
Here you have also an article I wrote about https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/natural-law-and-bitcoin
I simply don't give a shit about all EU politicians say or do. They DO NOT HAVE any jurisdiction over me and my labor and my money. It's all about slavery by consent.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Brunswick1 OP 12 Apr 2022
My dear brother in bitcoin,
You again are taking my question as if I'm asking for permission to obfuscate the satanist's desire to entrap the world into bondage. I'm not chattel of the EU, I'm asking on behalf of our fellow slaves in Europe.
My question is how do we open the world of free association and privacy to the many that find themselves subject to these laws? Even if I were to advise these blinded dullards to leave their home and family when they are unable to influence their slaveholders to grant these unalienable human rights, we have the same problem here. This EU law means bitcoin will only be available to the highly technical and under a black market. The issue isn't whether a freed/escaped individual is able to transact in bitcoin without permission from the wicked, its whether they are able to transact with the rest of humanity. If bitcoin somehow prevents this ability to track the individual, such as some derivative of taproot, it could re-open the floodgates of acceptance.
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5 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 12 Apr 2022
You again fall into the same trap, going over and over back to "EU laws"... Bitcoin revolution is not done in just few months or years. This is for long run.
I start in 2012 and I saw it potential. But some crazy nerds will not change the world full of obedient idiots NPCs from one day to another. Takes time and in special education in this matter.
NPCs are still watching TV instead of reading a damn book about Bitcoin....
First educate yourself, became a full sovereign individual, not just one that trying to avoid "EU laws". A sovereign man is not avoiding, but is confronting the lawfulness of those mandates. If you try to avoid them you will never succeed. Why? Because you, yourself, with your consent, you still obey those so called laws.
In this world the supreme law is Natural Law, then come common law, then come trust law and contract law (UCC), then come international treaties, then come so called "constitutions", and later the laws of a parliament. What is EU parliament? Is just paper, shity paper, that have no jurisdiction over me whatsoever.
Please read all material I sent you. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THESE ASPECTS.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Brunswick1 OP 12 Apr 2022
I appreciate your persistence in trying to convert me. This is not my first foray into the Sovereign Citizen theory, and had first studied it in depth around 2008 under George Gordon. I had hoped you weren't requiring me to adopt it in order to engage in this discussion, though I could recognize your perspective.
In regard to morality, your perspective is well founded. In a world where the NAP is supreme, such as one founded on Common Law, this framework is completely rational.
In this world, we deal with the slave and the slaveholder and the slave not only defends his master with force but polishes and struts about presenting his chains for adoration.
There is no hope for world peace until the return of the Rightful King, and until then we can only be at peace ourselves and invite others to join us.
This is my point, to provide a means for the guilty pleasure of the slave to secretly undermine his master even while still being subject to him. This is how we win conversions, not by attacking their character for wherefrom they presently hail.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @0268486dc4 12 Apr 2022
Just don't store/transact from gov controlled jurisdictions.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Brunswick1 OP 13 Apr 2022
Please elaborate.
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