Curious to know what's the general take on the release of the Cybertruck here in SN. Is this the new era of the trucking industriy? What's to expect ahead? How will this shape us as a society? Would you own one? Why, or why not?
1633 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr 3 Dec 2023
one thing i think the cybertruck represents is a shift towards independent design thinking.
for the last few decades, the name of the game for automakers has been optimizing for MPG, leading to a bunch of cars basically looking the same.
However, the low-cost, scalable nature of batteries makes it so that EVs can take on an incredibly wide array of forms without being constrained by efficiency.
This shift has already flipped the bike industry on its head, and I suspect cars and trucks are next.
Bikes were roughly all the same size/shape prior to electrification, and now we’ve got all sorts of custom variants like fat-tire bikes, foldable mini-bikes, motorcycle-esque e-bikes, and things like hoverboards and scooters which are sort of adjacent.
None of these new variants would be very efficient or useful without batteries, they all trended to either gas-powered (motorcycles) or human-powered (bikes, skateboards, scooters).
As EV battery tech improves (and it is improving, albeit slower than Tesla had hoped for), I think we’ll see a much wider array of car designs as fuel consumption and efficiency become secondary considerations.
The cybertruck feels like the first of many unique car designs we’ll see in the coming decades.
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Really like this Jason Cammisa review- drag races Rivian, Hummer etc, shows off turning on a gokart track. Discusses Steer by Wire innovation. Sandy Munro etc seem to rave about it. Nobody is innovating at the speed of Tesla
Would love to have one but a bit too pricey for me when my 2013 car is running just fine.
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I was kind of on the fence about the design back then and I am still. It's definitively less cool with the shorter snout. The high&small bed however feels like more for people who pretend to need a pickup than people who actually do. I like raw stainless steel as a material - feels to pure and honest.
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If your primary reason to buy one is to prepare for economic/societal collapse, maybe it's time to leave the country? Move to tough-on-crime countries, particularly those that moving or interesting moving onto a bitcoin standard.
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Are people really buying this truck for the End Times? I guess if you're otherwise fully preppered it makes sense.
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Yes it launched in California first because that's where End Times come from.
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There's a video on the Tesla YouTube channel that only demonstrates the vehicle's resistance to sub-sonic bullet impact. Lol. Possibly helping to keep you alive in the event that everything goes to hell is one of the main selling points.
The first gen of this model doesn't even have the 500mi range that was initially advertised and it's double the price. Elon fans and doomsday preppers will be the core customers.
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I just want to know if you can BIP the windows... can it survive SF??? lol
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lol SF is the real doomsday test
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I believe internal combustion engines would be more reliable in the end times. How are people going to keep these things charged?
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If getting electricity will be an issue, so will gasoline & diesel. At least with solar, you could stack panels in the truck bed and find a safe place to charge for a while perhaps. Need an inverter and all that. Reminds me of what Matt Damon had to do in the Martian.
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Will you be refining your own oil into gasoline in an apocalypse? More likely you'll stumble on some working solar panels.
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In worst case ICE can be powered by gas generator, using firewood, if needed. It was popular for civilian cars in a lot of places during WWII due to fuel shortages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
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I don't think doomsday preppers will bite in mass though. This isn't a $100 Patagonian vest you wear to make people think you're outdoorsy.
The closest thing I can think of is the Patagonia vest of cars: Subaru. Do people want to signal, in a socially similar way, they're a prepper though?
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en masse
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Oh thanks! Til
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It's a luxury truck focused on looks rather than practicality. I'm certainly not going to buy one.
Tesla's semi-truck is a much more interesting truck. For certain types of jobs, it could actually be a useful working truck.
Edison Motors is another example of an actual electric semi-truck with the potential to be useful for real work: https://youtube.com/@EdisonMotors
The guy behind it has real experience driving logging trucks in Canada.
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Looks cool AF
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yeah! I feel served
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Personally, I think its ugly as fuck and will not consider owning one. Also, there are already other EV trucks out there. I don't think this is anything groundbreaking or special. Just another toy from Tesla to appeal / sell to their fans.
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Dumb slogan: Built for any planet. Come on
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Is this the new era of the trucking industriy?
No. Everyone with a product to sell will claim they've created epochal change (as does anyone who buys the product).
What's to expect ahead?
If the cybertruck sells well we might see less airbnbification of cars at least.
How will this shape us as a society?
I'd guess it won't. If it were the first EV it'd be a big deal, or even the first EV truck, but it's just the first EV truck from Tesla. Are there other reasons to expect societal change from a truck?
Would you own one?
No I rarely drive. I also don't like the tradeoffs for refilling/recharging. Teslas have high toy value mostly afaict which probably makes driving more fun. afaict their self-driving isn't there yet so that's not a reason to "get yours today!" Their car owner culture also reminds me of Apple's, which is fine, but with a 100x entry price and less focused leadership.
Primarily I like that it looks weird and is bullet proof.
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Greshams law applied to art.
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I can't believe this goofy contraption is a thing that actually exists.
But for some reason I'm glad it does?
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A lot of untruths in these comments. It starts at 60, it has as good a bed as any other truck, it can tow as much as any other truck. "Other electric trucks" are a meme and an insult to my intelligence, the rivian is a very expensive adventure truck in limited series, the electric f150 is an butt-ugly reminder of how the american automotive industry is dead outside of tesla. Feature for feature, start with the base models towing, bed, and features and you tell me whats a better truck at that price. Its a tad expensive, itll take a few years for it to make sense to me, but if your price point is spending 60-100k (which is a lot of people I work with) then this is a kick ass truck.
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I like it.
I'd consider buying one if the company resumed Bitcoin payments. Until then, no thanks.
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you're like a single issue voter but for buying stuff nice!
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Only way I'm buying it is if I can use Bitcoin as Collateral to do so
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It is?
That’s it. That’s my take lol
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i like it, but its not foss and insurance on cars (or any for that matter) is a pure scam that raises my bloodpressure to dangerous levels… fucking leeches
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I'm need to test drive it before finalizing my opinion.
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saw one cruising the neighborhood last night
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It's one of the most interesting new products to be released a long time. I find it super entertaining to observe both sides of it. The mindless Tesla stock holders and the naysayers. I believe that Elon's ego gets the best of him. Space, X, Tesla. He wants control of it all and he is slipping. I doubt very many people will want or be able to afford such a vehicle. I think it is mostly just hype.
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hmm, who cares.
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I saw one driving home a few weeks back. It was the ugliest vehicle I have ever seen reminded me of the Pontaic minivans in the 90’s meaning they just stick out and a lot smaller than I would’ve guessed; it basically looked like aluminum siding for paneling.
Even Teslas these days look like taxi cabs, which is really sad. I remember thinking they looked futuristic a decade ago.
Also its quite possible we are just over saturated with Tesla's in Austin.
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Would you own one? Why, or why not?
Will never own Tesla in present shape, because of FOTA (firmware over the air) thing. I don't want to drive a car that's fully controlled by software that can be changed remotely via Internet without my consent, it's dangerous.
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Waiting for dollar / sat parity before purchasing.
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I just want to rent one to cosplay as that tank from the 80's game Battlezone.
I can't imagine who it's practical for. And wow, the base model is 100k!
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It's a 100k+ truck that doesn't come with a spare tire...
Honestly when I see someone on the road with a Tesla I think they are a sucker. If you are a multi-millionaire then spending 60k+ on a car is alright, but most Americans are just in debt up to their eye balls.
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