Hey Stackers,
Still being a beginner in this field, I'm having some difficulties understanding the difference between custodian and non-custodial lightning wallets. I tried searching for some info here and there on Google, but still not clear regarding the topic.
Is there any significant difference between them?
As a beginner, I was suggested to start with a custodial wallet and I have used Muun and the Wallet of Satoshi for making small transactions and keeping my sats. But I read that they are not such good wallets. And I don't understand why they are not.
So, would you still recommend I stay with these wallets or it's time to start learning and having some new experiences with more 'secure' or 'better' wallets?
If so, which wallet would you recommend based on your experience and why?
Is there any significant difference between them?
In a custodial wallet, you give your money to whatever person or group made that wallet, they handle the difficult parts of running a node for you, and they give you nice and easy "Send" and "Receive" buttons. A node, by the way, is a software program that is designed to regularly communicate with similar programs on a network. They are used a lot in bitcoin and on the lightning network.
In a self-custodial wallet -- sometimes called a non-custodial wallet -- your money (well, your private keys) are directly on your own device. Your device runs a node in the background, usually (if it's a phone) in a kind of "lite mode" where communication is less constant, and it tries to automate some parts of managing a node. But it usually requires some initial setup and occasional maintenance, either via user prompts (e.g. "please pay 50,000 sats to open a new lightning channel") or some dedicated "Manage" interface.
In short, custodial wallets are easier to use but you don't actually "have" your money -- whoever made the wallet does. Self-custodial wallets are harder to use but they give you full control over your money because you, and you alone, have the private keys.
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116 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tef OP 21 Feb
After reading the guides shared by @DarthCoin and your to-the-point comment, I understood that the difference is not just significant, but it's a huge difference.
Thanks for your comment!
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Please start reading these guides:
which wallet would you recommend based on your experience and why?
Is not about preferences or favorites... Is about features, functionalities and use cases. Each wallet will have its own use case.
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116 sats \ 4 replies \ @Tef OP 21 Feb
@DarthCoin I found your guides extremely helpful! Thank you! You have done great work sharing your long experience with us.
The whole issue is quite clear to me now. I'm in the first level and the custodial wallets do work well for right now.
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Please do not stop only on those 2 guides I shared about wallets. I wrote over 60+ guides about Bitcoin and Lightning Network, use cases, scenarios, how to etc.
All of them on my substack - https://darthcoin.substack.com/s/english/archive?sort=new If you want to see them all by categories I start to copy them here: https://darth-coin.github.io/ (work in progress).
Your bitcoiner life will be much easier after you read them.
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121 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 21 Feb
you would figure out your own preference by testing @Tef and there's no better guide to read than https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/bitcoin-be-your-own-bank-think-like
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I agree.
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116 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tef OP 21 Feb
Yes, I explored a little bit your website. You have done amazing work with these step-by-step guides.
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it's like finding the Bitcionlandia map to guide me what's freedom 😎
@DarthCoin, did you get that?
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At first it is complicated, another initial tells you... But after you understand the concept it is easy, the "custodian wallets" you are not the one who actually holds the funds, and it depends on the provider's channel, which could escape whenever you want, closing the Channels and obviously taking the sats that said channel had... Now on the other hand the "non-custodial wallets" you personally are the custodian, it is up to you to store the keys that give access to the sats and it is up to you to open or close channels to manage your sats... Only depending on the nodes of those wallets to connect the sats between channels, but you place the sats of the channel and you open and close the channel whenever you want... As a newbie that I am I would also say that the one who best solves our problems is Phoenix.... Blitx and Green are doing well but Phoenix is ​​everything very simple. I hope my opinion helps you
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If you are on Android, try the best in class Valet, a fork of SBW. Install and open real channel with deezy or blocktank LSP. I heard they keep channels open for long.
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Nope, I'm on IOS 🤷
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Escape from the control and surveillance of those on the block, as soon as possible
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Sad. All fun happens on android
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I know.
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  1. try them all!
  2. come back and tell us!
  3. win experience
  4. win sats
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