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1416 sats \ 66 comments \ @mikhael 21 Jul 2022 bitcoin

Mine is 888 - I just changed it from the default 10.

I want to grow this ecosystem, and 10 sats won't do a whole lot. I also enjoy the number 8, infinity.

3195 sats \ 11 replies \ @kr 21 Jul 2022

i go with 99, hoping someone else gets the satisfaction of tipping 1 sat and seeing an even 100.

i’ve also been thinking about ways to get more people to tip, or at least to change their default tip amounts to something more significant... thoughts on something like this in replacement of the current tip settings panel?

https://i.postimg.cc/sXVWjcRv/Screen-Shot-2022-07-21-at-12-34-21-PM.png

2877 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 21 Jul 2022

I had the same thought but instead of having this just appearing in settings, a small number of default options show-up when you hold-down to custom-tip.

Similar to cafe cashier tipping options where they anchor you on an 18% tip being the lowest option....

Only problem I see is if you accidentally fat-finger 80k sats to someone.

2864 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 21 Jul 2022

yeah there are definitely some fun ways to improve tipping here, will think more about the fat-finger issue, good call

2754 sats \ 3 replies \ @nullcount 21 Jul 2022

Default tip amount could be public, that way we can shame people into raising it jk

2807 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr 21 Jul 2022

haha these icons could appear under your posts if someone tips you in that exact amount… maybe a fun easter egg?

2934 sats \ 1 reply \ @nullcount 21 Jul 2022

I like it. Kinda like reddit awards. Pay to add flair to posts/comments. Maybe it's a separate thing from regular tips. Maybe a portion goes to the SN treasury for reward distribution.

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 22 Jul 2022

I like this idea.

2665 sats \ 0 replies \ @pi 21 Jul 2022

I can see all the replies you've probably tipped. 😅

2664 sats \ 1 reply \ @faithandcredit 21 Jul 2022

Are those number recommendations something ur browser does? I dont have them

2811 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 21 Jul 2022

this is all just a mock-up i did in figma, inspired by the emojis that appear below slack messages. wanted to try and give a value to certain emojis that people would recognize.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 22 Jul

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcoingraffiti 23 Jul 2022

Help me out here! Missing one!

80085?

2955 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 21 Jul 2022

Nice!

I tip 100 sats to most stuff and click a few more times if it's pretty valuable, and drop 5-10-20-100k if something is exceptional. I also tip really big on AMAs 50k+.

This week alone I've spent 400k sats which is kind of crazy, but I also get a ton of rewards because I tip well and upvote good stuff as early as possible. Plus, users just occasionally send me sats and I try to redistribute them and draw down my balance.

2785 sats \ 3 replies \ @selfish_gene 21 Jul 2022

как создавать отдельный чат? или комнату? хотим делать общение по очень дорогой цене, что будет уберегать нас от спама.

18.7k sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 21 Jul 2022

Like on https://vida.live?

We definitely might do something like sat costing DMs at some point.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

Never heard of it, buuuut thank you.

What I'm really wondering... is what else is out there like this?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @selfish_gene 22 Jul 2022

будет здорово! пусть это будет дороже но будет возможность вернуть собеседнику. а если спам то он останется без сатош

2862 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xtr 21 Jul 2022

I default to 21 because... Bitcoin. But I do tip a lot more for content I really appreciate such as a good guide/tutorial, a writeup on some theme I find interesting or for AMAs with people I find very exciting.

2800 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 21 Jul 2022

I was topping off posts to hit the nearest 69 but realized it might discourage tipping from people who don't want to ruin the number. Now I have it set to a 30-something and tip 1-5x+ depending on the joy the post brings or if I like the poster.

990 sats \ 1 reply \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

Let's raise our game fam.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 22 Jul 2022

👀

10.8k sats \ 0 replies \ @oli 21 Jul 2022

Now we know you didn't upvote anyone in the thread though :)

2779 sats \ 2 replies \ @random_ 21 Jul 2022

I usually tip

at least 1 sat if I reply to a post/comment, (because it made me interact with the site)
21 if the content tickles me
100 if it made a material difference in my life.

2730 sats \ 1 reply \ @nullcount 21 Jul 2022

... and 100k of it's to an account you also control

2764 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 21 Jul 2022

20k distributed over 50 accounts

Everyone on SN is a bot except for you (:

2779 sats \ 0 replies \ @Majjin 21 Jul 2022

I recently changed it to 5 sats. Number just feels right for comments and posts that I find mildly interesting or helpful. When they are more interesting or helpful, I tip more.

2769 sats \ 2 replies \ @faithandcredit 21 Jul 2022

well now we know everything you have upvoted if it says 888 :) Mine is 3 because it gives privacy! you dont know if its me or if its 3 other ppl. But also i like to click multiple times so you never know

2764 sats \ 0 replies \ @faithandcredit 21 Jul 2022

I may or may not have upped my default tip just now.

7 sats \ 0 replies \ @jeff 22 Jul 2022

3-gang here too, same reasons!

2797 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 21 Jul 2022

My default is set to 15 right now because k00b gives me too many sats. I've done 1,000 sat tips before though because I was just really happy to see the post. I don't have a high bar to tip though. If a post had me learning something new about the world, 15 sats. If someone is arguing with me in the comments, were the arguments well thought out? Tip. Is the argument dumb in the first place? Don't tip. This is to encourage people who stimulate my brain even if I don't agree with them.

So as you see, the default doesn't always mean I tip that amount.

2767 sats \ 0 replies \ @EnormousPony 21 Jul 2022

my default is one, I like to use it as baseline. When I find good content i simply tap and hold for a bigger amount. My biggest tip to date is 1k. Usually my average is still 100

5 sats \ 6 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

Honestly kind of sad no one else has joined in the largesse. I straight gave 888 increments like its no tomorrow.

That's cool though, leadership is a thankless art lost to today's lost souls.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Jul 2022

We have our reasons for tipping the amounts we do though

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

If your reasons were any good, you probably would have shared them ;)

It's okay, there are plenty of cheap people in the world. So cheap, in fact, that they only tip one satoshi at a time.

Honestly, I never knew such miserliness could exist in this world.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

Like, you tipping one sat? Either you are incredibly cheap, I'm talking Ebenezer Scrooge would have looked like a hype-beast cheap, or your are incredibly poor.

Neither are a great look.

991 sats \ 2 replies \ @nerd2ninja 22 Jul 2022

My brother in Christ, it only costs you 1 sat to post. Your perspective is weird as hell. Most platforms don't even do this tipping thing in the first place. Are you trying to make money here? Well, a lot of people in these comments have given their criteria for why they tip what and it seems you haven't seen mine so here's a damn repost:

"My default is set to 15 right now because k00b gives me too many sats. I've done 1,000 sat tips before though because I was just really happy to see the post. I don't have a high bar to tip though. If a post had me learning something new about the world, 15 sats. If someone is arguing with me in the comments, were the arguments well thought out? Tip. Is the argument dumb in the first place? Don't tip. This is to encourage people who stimulate my brain even if I don't agree with them.

So as you see, the default doesn't always mean I tip that amount."

Yeah k00b tips an unreasonable amount in my opinion lol. But remember, this entire system is meant to encourage quality content. The lower amounts are typically for lower quality, but still agreeable content.

Tipping is, and always has been long before this platform, a sort of bribery mechanism. The people who tip low no matter the content, will not be curated to. That's the incentive to tip higher. This strange tipping entitlement act you're doing...I don't know what to say about it other than no as I reject it entirely.

820 sats \ 0 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

Also, nice post and well-reasoned. Thanks for engaging in a substantive manner.

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

Totally fine with 1 sat to post. This is about tipping.
lol I don't need money from SN. In fact, I'm donating it here. I just think it's an interesting experiment. I have no 'tipping entitlement', in fact I just don't give a damn if you tip anything I say or not.
I just wish people would tip something resembling real world money to other contributors, because that's how you make an ecosystem that boldmattersbold. If you don't see something you like, don't tip. I mean, Christ. I'm not saying hand out money to everyone.

Otherwise, it will simply be an interesting experiment with no real world impact other than just being a message board with lightning tips. You can't build a true set of financial incentives, if you are paying people fractions of fractions of a penny. I'm all for this just being a fun time (like HN), but since SN has gone down the rabbit hole of financialization - I would like to see where it goes.

And I think it's a much more interesting journey if people tip MORE THAN ONE SAT, I mean do you not realize how absurd that is? Who cares about one sat?

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @DeezSats 24 Jul 2022

Tipping is a form of micropayment. The revolution it brings is it funds the things you want without you becoming the product. It keeps advertisers from influencing the message. Incentives are aligned, middlemen rent seekers are sidelined.

2674 sats \ 0 replies \ @And1 21 Jul 2022

Since the change in the earning algorithm, I tip more often and more. My current defaults are: 7, 21, 777 and any number to make it even.

2674 sats \ 0 replies \ @itsrealfake 21 Jul 2022

my default is 1 sat for things i am glad to see posted

for things i think require a bit of effort, i'm tipping 10

for things that save me time, i'm tipping 100+

2674 sats \ 0 replies \ @alvaraaltopelti 21 Jul 2022

Hmm lets see

sats.get(800);

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @jeff 22 Jul 2022

Mine is set to 3 - BUT - I smash uncontrollably. Every. Time.

909 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 23 Jul 2022 freebie

Just curious, OP, are you Chinese? 8 is a lucky number in Chinese culture and people like to make house bids with numbers like 208,888 etc.

26 sats \ 0 replies \ @mikhael OP 23 Jul 2022

I was Chinese in a past life. Enjoyed the experience.

888 sats \ 0 replies \ @BeardedSaintRef 22 Jul 2022

I’m a fan of paying for your work you put in. The more you put into either answering a question thoroughly or posting a discussion which brings forth great discussions I believe deserves more of a tip. “Proof of work= <Tips”

888 sats \ 1 reply \ @zeRealSchlausKwab 22 Jul 2022

Its 10 because i like it when the flash animation plays

120 sats \ 0 replies \ @mikhael OP 22 Jul 2022

The animation is dope, for sure.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 22 Jul

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @selfish_gene 24 Jul 2022

давай использовать 1...так будет интереснее.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @pony 22 Jul 2022

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @Brunswick 22 Jul 2022

I tip at a half or quarter cent, and update the amount every month or so.

5 sats \ 9 replies \ @ek 15 Oct 2022

Sounds cumbersome. You still do this?

888 sats \ 8 replies \ @Brunswick 15 Oct 2022

Yes, when I'm feeling generous 😀

52 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 15 Oct 2022

Generous? Doesn't this depend on if the price moves up or down?

And half or quarter cent means between 25 and 12 sats, right? (@20k EUR/BTC)

952 sats \ 6 replies \ @Brunswick 15 Oct 2022

Yes, but I've shifted to tipping the same amount people tip me. For some reason, other than k00b, that seems to be 1, 5, 10 or 25 sats

Yes I was tipping around 20 to 25 sats. Today a half cent would be 26 sats

Thanks for the 1.224 cents 🤣

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 15 Oct 2022

Curious why you care about the amount in cents? Don't you think this won't matter in the long run?

893 sats \ 0 replies \ @Brunswick 15 Oct 2022

Good question. It's about flow. If you are buying sats for a certain price only to spend them, you will still think of them at today's price. When you're storing them, you think of them at the HODL bank price (between 10 cents and a dollar). When you're paying someone today, you are transferring todays value, not future value.

888 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 15 Oct 2022

Now that I think of it, exponential tip amounts would be nice. So I would start at 1. Next tips of the same post would mean 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ...

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Brunswick 15 Oct 2022

I think that was proposed once, not sure if it was deprioritized or tabled.

888 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 15 Oct 2022

I see. Here you go, deal with 64 sats! haha

My default tip amount is 5. If I see a comment I think is worth tipping, I would already tip at least 5 sats since anything below that means I care so little I wouldn't tip in the first place.

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Brunswick 15 Oct 2022

5 sats seems like the minimum to me also. It must be my gut telling me that's the right number at todays prices. I guess that's about 0.1 cent

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @z 22 Jul 2022

I have it set at 1 because I love spamming with the lightning effect

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @vijo 22 Jul 2022

I like to round up to round/meaningful numbers...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DogFac3 22 Jul 2022

100-500 can easily be recouped w/ learn to earn apps & interact to earn Bitcoin apps plus its an easy orange pill to shitcoiners

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @frostdragon 22 Jul 2022

New here so still stacking. Default is still 1, but 10-15 has been my regular. Looking forward to upping it once I have more. Honestly, stacking was part of the initial draw, but now I kinda like the idea that this site keeps a few bitcoin of sats in circulation that never leave, just for the spirit of it.