Ask SN: How do you onboard total nocoiners?
1763 sats \ 21 comments \ @DarthCoin 23 Aug 2022 bitcoin
Please share here your experiences / stories of how you onboarded total nocoiners, people that have no idea what is bitcoin, how to obtain it/buy it, use it, store it. There are many aspects and processes when is about to onboard a nocoiner.
Points I would like to see:
  • did you just tell them to buy it from x place (KYC or non-KYC) and that it... ?
  • did you start teaching them first and slowly in time watch over their steps and guide them?
  • did you just hand over some flyers about bitcoin ?
  • did you just say "download this x wallet app and buy BTC" ?
  • did you help them in time and also help you, by letting them to pay your fiat bills and you pay them in BTC ?
  • did you offer professional services with bitcoin education for individuals and companies?
I think that onboarding new users with good education is a key point.
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236 sats \ 6 replies \ @BlokchainB 23 Aug 2022
I tried many
giving gifts by exchanges Open dimes Download BlueWallet and I’ll send you some
When I am gifting for birthdays weddings and the such I always think how can I get them bitcoin trying to stay away from having them buy KYC but sometimes I suggest it
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114 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 23 Aug 2022
When I am gifting for birthdays weddings and the such I always think how can I get them bitcoin
Suggestion:
  • setup your own LN node and add LNbits
  • create some LNURL-w QR codes in Lnbits
  • print the QR codes on a nice paper and put them in an envelope for the celebrated people, with some few words and indications how to use and learn more about Bitcoin.
  • add this famous flyer "I dare you"...
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121 sats \ 1 reply \ @deleted231216 23 Aug 2022
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450 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 23 Aug 2022
Indeed. Here is the editable modified version with your suggestion https://gofile.io/d/eey9LT
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1 sat \ 2 replies \ @BlokchainB 24 Aug 2022
Nice flyer. I tried this lnbits thing with my umbrel but I couldn’t get LNURL-w to work because my node was behind tor and the umbrel lnbits didn’t have the one add on to enable it to work.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 24 Aug 2022
use Hakuna's guide to make your umbrel Tor node accessible on clearnet https://github.com/TrezorHannes/vps-lnbits https://community.getumbrel.com/t/how-to-configure-umbrel-lnbits-app-without-tor/ Here I wrote 2 guides how to use Lnbits: https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lnbits-for-small-merchants https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/the-bank-of-lnbits
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 24 Aug 2022
Here you have also a nice BTC info flyer to print and fold in 3 sections and distribute on the street/mail. Is in EN, ES and DE language. https://gofile.io/d/LegUZs
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221 sats \ 1 reply \ @purpurato 23 Aug 2022
I have tried many, but in the end just gave up, people will come to it on their own. There's something about it here #61520
What I do now is try to spike curiosity on people so they will study and try to find out more about it. For example people trying to send money abroad, I show them the best way is through BTC and offer to show them how, or even do it myself, so they know that it actually works. Splitting bills and paying my part in BTC is also a good one. And asking as much as possible if it's possible to pay with BTC and when I need to be paid, clarify I prefer BTC. I believe NgU technology is what will make most of the job of onboarding.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 23 Aug 2022
I believe NgU technology is what will make most of the job of onboarding.
Indeed...
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160 sats \ 1 reply \ @deleted231216 23 Aug 2022
I made this simple webpage to onboard people to Bitcoin as a payment method: https://anarkio.codeberg.page/bitcoin/ and a brochure: https://twitter.com/linkinparkrulz_/status/1543348394181148672
did you just tell them to buy it from x place (KYC or non-KYC) and that it... ?
"Where to buy Bitcoin" depends on location. Where I live, there are still KYC-free Bitcoin ATMs, which is the easiest option. In the US, Azteco vouchers are also a good option.
In some countries, there is enough liquidity for cash by mail or cash in person in P2P exchanges (Bisq, Robosats, HodlHodl, LocalCryptos, AgoraDesk). In other countries, few people use P2P exchanges and instead trade via word-of-mouth, meetups and friends-of-friends.
Gift cards like Amazon, PaySafeCard and Google Play are generally region-locked and KYC-free Visa gift cards aren't sold in many countries anymore, but it can be a solution, if you can find someone who wants to buy a local gift card for Bitcoin.
Local Bitcoin, libertarian, tech or hackerspace meetups are also good for onboarding and finding people who want to exchange Bitcoin for cash.
did you just say "download this x wallet app and buy BTC" ?
Regarding wallets, any KYC-free wallet is fine (i.e. not Coinbase, Strike or others). Blue Wallet is generally my recommendation. It's easy-to-use, doesn't require a full node, works on Android and iOS, and supports both on-chain and Lightning.
did you help them in time and also help you, by letting them to pay your fiat bills and you pay them in BTC ?
I have asked friends and P2P traders before if they could send bank transfers or credit card payments for me (e.g. online shopping, invoices) and I pay them upfront in crypto or cash. Right now my only bills are cash-based (food and rent), but it's still good to know people who can help with bank transfers.
did you offer professional services with bitcoin education for individuals and companies?
I offer web dev, scripting, graphic design and copywriting services for Bitcoin, but my educational articles and infographics are available for free here: https://anarkio.codeberg.page/
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 23 Aug 2022
This is gentlemen ! I really love to see these experiences.
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221 sats \ 1 reply \ @theKOMOTION 23 Aug 2022
for some it’s easy, just a constructive conversation goes a long way.
for some it takes gifting sats (everyone likes free money… so imagine giving out what you explained as “real money” to them)
at the gym my partner goes, I introduced a few people there to “Smiles” app so they use fitness to earn portions of bitcoin and from there they get to understand on their own seeing the legitimacy and ease in moving sats.
I also started a podcast-type voice note I send on instant messaging apps to friends trying to teach what I know.
the most important project I am on is introducing lightning to a friends barbecue business, he still doesn’t believe in bitcoin but I accept all the sats he sells and give him fiat in return… some day he’ll figure out why I chose real money.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 23 Aug 2022
he still doesn’t believe in bitcoin but I accept all the sats he sells and give him fiat in return… some day he’ll figure out why I chose real money.
hahaha this is cool. Well said!
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131 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 23 Aug 2022
It depends. There are many people who I convinced to get bitcoin simply by explaining what it is, why it's an innovation, and why I think it's wise to have some. They went and did the rest themselves with no problems. Others I had to walk them through a little bit more, especially how to move your funds to a cold wallet.
The darkside of this is that some of those people went further, putting their bitcoins on things like Celsius and Voyager, something I would not recommend but didn't explicitly warn about. So that is a big regret of mine, not warning them about things like that.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 23 Aug 2022
So that is a big regret of mine, not warning them about things like that.
Well said... Exactly that, few years ago, I come out more and start warning people about these aspects. It is really sick seeing people get scammed so easily.
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @kilianbuhn 23 Aug 2022
Don't convince them - lure them in slowly, they have to make their own steps
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110 sats \ 0 replies \ @faithandcredit 23 Aug 2022
Create something awesome Charge BTC to use it in one way or another
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200 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jorj_X_McKie 23 Aug 2022
I’ve had mixed success, mostly failures. The more fiat wealthy, the less interest. Increased perception (reality actually) of inflation and taxation will shift them from ‘comfortable’ to ‘nervous’ to Bitcoin receptive.
The easiest people by far to orange pill are immigrants. They get the ‘why’ and just want the ‘how’ information.
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131 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 23 Aug 2022
Eh, if they're young I usually give them sats and say "I just sent you money in seconds without a bank or service involved."
If they're old, it's usually bringing their attention to the pain of fiat and the investing rat race. "Bitcoin doesn't have this problem." I'd recommend books if they are readers, but people don't really read so it's difficult. I'll usually offer to send them videos if they seem curious enough, but I haven't had anyone take me up on it.
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @satup 23 Aug 2022
i invited my kid here with promising a matched fund if he earned from cool postings
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld 24 Aug 2022
Stopped doing that a while ago. You get more cheap coins if Bitcoin is just works for you.
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