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🐧 Linux users continue to be ignored by Proton

1160 sats \ 40 comments \ @Skipper 3 Aug privacy

Linux users continue to be ignored by Proton, with the company opting instead to develop new AI features on Proton Mail that nobody needs, and a new Bitcoin Wallet that no one with 2 brain cells will use.

Why bother implementing end-to-end encryption across all Proton apps if the operating system they run on will screenshot the emails, calendar, files, browser history, and employ AI to snoop through everything, then send it to Big Brother's Microsoft/Apple servers? It's utterly absurd.

Linux should be the top priority for Proton.

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121 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 4 Aug

I feel ya, but at the same time Proton is a business first. I imagine the vast majority of their paying customers so not run Linux. They do probably have more Linux users than most companies but my guess is it's still the minority.

Why do I think this? Because Linux is a small sliver of the Desktop OS userbase. Because they are a business, if this decision is a mistake they will suffer.

45 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

Linux market share continues to rise, now at 4.45%, which is the highest ever. This figure likely underestimates the true extent of Linux usage, as many users modify their user agent for privacy reasons.

Building privacy/security apps on top of spyware operating systems is pointless, it's inherently contradictory.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 4 Aug

You get what I'm saying right. I am not disagreeing with you. Windows is a spyware platform. Linux is rising in usage. As it does we that use it will get more attention. This is just how markets and incentives work.

110 sats \ 4 replies \ @benthecarman 4 Aug

you can use it with thunderbird

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

Mind blown that the solution would be to use another app. 😄

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RdioActiv 4 Aug

Zoomer mentality

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko 4 Aug

Exactly. Or open in Browser. I don't see a reason to be whining here

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

How do you access your emails or calendar while offline? You can't. It's absurd that I need to open a browser just to check my calendar. But the worst offender is Proton Drive because there's no Linux support, and using the browser webapp to manage files is ridiculous.

52 sats \ 1 reply \ @leo 4 Aug

And on top of all of that you can't even pay with Lightning!

8 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

It's been 6 years since this feature was first requested (https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/935538-accounts-payments/suggestions/33659026-lightning-network-bitcoin-payment-option), and unfortunately, we've seen radio silence from Proton on this.

76 sats \ 1 reply \ @Hypnagog 4 Aug

Works fine on my brave browser running pop os?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

We need proper native desktop apps. Having to open my browser just to check the calendar or access files is absurd.

122 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 3 Aug

Wow, posting on this sub is a bit expensive... 😄

121 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 4 Aug

Have some sats to recoup costs

25 sats \ 3 replies \ @Chronicsats 4 Aug

Wait I am confused I do see a Deb and rpm file for Linux?

https://m.stacker.news/43278

Is it the full suite that isn't available?

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

Have you tried it? Spoiler: it's garbage. It feels like a web app pretending to be a native app. It takes 5 seconds to launch, and there's no offline support - so it's just the same as using a browser... useless.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Chronicsats 4 Aug

I have not and I just use a browser anyway. So I do see your point. Yea alot of companies are going the way of the browser apps. Which is unfortunate. Granted I was thinking of subscribing . But I atm I just run a home network with nextcloud and other services for connecting externally I use zerotier on occasion. But alot of stuff I am ok with just connecting and syncing when I am at home.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibreHans 4 Aug freebie

The proton bridge app sucks, I uninstalled it and am only using proton on my phone. Wouldn't have paid for proton tbh if I had known this.

4 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 4 Aug

How are Linux users ignored? I actually can't get it from the post.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

The Proton VPN Linux app is completely garbage compared to Windows/Android apps. Furthermore, there's no Proton Drive integration on Linux (in contrast to Windows), which means we can't access our files through the file manager—our only option is to open the browser...

Linux support for Proton Drive is the #2 most requested feature among user community votes on their site.

https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932839-proton-drive/filters/top

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ryu 4 Aug

Don't forget the mobile app removing Random server support, thus making anonymous VPN usage completely fucking useless unless you go in and change the server every single time.

Proton has been on a disappointment streak as of late, and I can't for the life of me figure out why they've decided on dropping the ball so hard.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17 4 Aug

Maybe they want to "appear secure".

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 3 Aug

Proton Drive years later continues with no Linux support, dispite it being the second most requested feature (as voted by the users).

https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932839-proton-drive/suggestions/45271456-linux-client

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jerrybature 4 Aug

Most Linux users are security-conscious.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @sangekrypto 4 Aug

Yes, as far as I know, very few people use Linux anymore, let alone wallets that usually use Linux. In the past, I often watched several tutorials on using Linux wallets, it seemed suitable to discuss how to use Linux to store Sats from Stacker.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RdioActiv 4 Aug

Have you tried pulling your head out of the sand?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

very few people use Linux anymore

Linux market share continues to rise, now at 4.45%, which is the highest ever.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 4 Aug

I am windows user

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 4 Aug

Time to change of provider

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kman2140 4 Aug

As in a Linux client?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Octopus 4 Aug outlawed

stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug

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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @duuv 4 Aug

What are you using for secure email and vpn?

42 sats \ 6 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

Hmm, what about storage?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug

I use cloud (Proton) as a backup only, in case SHTF. I'm curious, what do you use to synchronize your files, notes, and media across your phone, laptop, and tablet (if applicable)?

I'm using Syncthing, which runs locally and seems to be working well. In the past, I used Nextcloud for about two years but ended up switching because I found Syncthing to be a simpler and safer solution.