🐧 Linux users continue to be ignored by Proton
1160 sats \ 40 comments \ @Skipper 3 Aug privacy
Linux users continue to be ignored by Proton, with the company opting instead to develop new AI features on Proton Mail that nobody needs, and a new Bitcoin Wallet that no one with 2 brain cells will use.
Why bother implementing end-to-end encryption across all Proton apps if the operating system they run on will screenshot the emails, calendar, files, browser history, and employ AI to snoop through everything, then send it to Big Brother's Microsoft/Apple servers? It's utterly absurd.
Linux should be the top priority for Proton.
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121 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 4 Aug
I feel ya, but at the same time Proton is a business first. I imagine the vast majority of their paying customers so not run Linux. They do probably have more Linux users than most companies but my guess is it's still the minority.
Why do I think this? Because Linux is a small sliver of the Desktop OS userbase. Because they are a business, if this decision is a mistake they will suffer.
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45 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
Linux market share continues to rise, now at 4.45%, which is the highest ever. This figure likely underestimates the true extent of Linux usage, as many users modify their user agent for privacy reasons.
Building privacy/security apps on top of spyware operating systems is pointless, it's inherently contradictory.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 4 Aug
You get what I'm saying right. I am not disagreeing with you. Windows is a spyware platform. Linux is rising in usage. As it does we that use it will get more attention. This is just how markets and incentives work.
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110 sats \ 4 replies \ @benthecarman 4 Aug
you can use it with thunderbird
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
Mind blown that the solution would be to use another app. 😄
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RdioActiv 4 Aug
Zoomer mentality
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko 4 Aug
Exactly. Or open in Browser. I don't see a reason to be whining here
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
How do you access your emails or calendar while offline? You can't. It's absurd that I need to open a browser just to check my calendar. But the worst offender is Proton Drive because there's no Linux support, and using the browser webapp to manage files is ridiculous.
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52 sats \ 1 reply \ @leo 4 Aug
And on top of all of that you can't even pay with Lightning!
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8 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
It's been 6 years since this feature was first requested (https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/935538-accounts-payments/suggestions/33659026-lightning-network-bitcoin-payment-option), and unfortunately, we've seen radio silence from Proton on this.
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76 sats \ 1 reply \ @Hypnagog 4 Aug
Works fine on my brave browser running pop os?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
We need proper native desktop apps. Having to open my browser just to check the calendar or access files is absurd.
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122 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 3 Aug
Wow, posting on this sub is a bit expensive... 😄
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121 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 4 Aug
Have some sats to recoup costs
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25 sats \ 3 replies \ @Chronicsats 4 Aug
Wait I am confused I do see a Deb and rpm file for Linux? https://m.stacker.news/43278 Is it the full suite that isn't available?
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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
Have you tried it? Spoiler: it's garbage. It feels like a web app pretending to be a native app. It takes 5 seconds to launch, and there's no offline support - so it's just the same as using a browser... useless.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Chronicsats 4 Aug
I have not and I just use a browser anyway. So I do see your point. Yea alot of companies are going the way of the browser apps. Which is unfortunate. Granted I was thinking of subscribing . But I atm I just run a home network with nextcloud and other services for connecting externally I use zerotier on occasion. But alot of stuff I am ok with just connecting and syncing when I am at home.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibreHans 4 Aug freebie
The proton bridge app sucks, I uninstalled it and am only using proton on my phone. Wouldn't have paid for proton tbh if I had known this.
4 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 4 Aug
How are Linux users ignored? I actually can't get it from the post.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
The Proton VPN Linux app is completely garbage compared to Windows/Android apps. Furthermore, there's no Proton Drive integration on Linux (in contrast to Windows), which means we can't access our files through the file manager—our only option is to open the browser...
Linux support for Proton Drive is the #2 most requested feature among user community votes on their site.
https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932839-proton-drive/filters/top
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ryu 4 Aug
Don't forget the mobile app removing Random server support, thus making anonymous VPN usage completely fucking useless unless you go in and change the server every single time.
Proton has been on a disappointment streak as of late, and I can't for the life of me figure out why they've decided on dropping the ball so hard.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17 4 Aug
Maybe they want to "appear secure".
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 3 Aug
Proton Drive years later continues with no Linux support, dispite it being the second most requested feature (as voted by the users).
https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932839-proton-drive/suggestions/45271456-linux-client
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bature_ 4 Aug
Most Linux users are security-conscious.
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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug
Left Proton a few years ago and couldn't be happier - why keep "spoon feeding " me more services when ALL I need a secured email...
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @duuv 4 Aug
What are you using for secure email and vpn?
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42 sats \ 6 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug
Tuta and Mullvad
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
Hmm, what about storage?
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug
you mean cloud storage? I don't use any.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
I use cloud (Proton) as a backup only, in case SHTF. I'm curious, what do you use to synchronize your files, notes, and media across your phone, laptop, and tablet (if applicable)?
I'm using Syncthing, which runs locally and seems to be working well. In the past, I used Nextcloud for about two years but ended up switching because I found Syncthing to be a simpler and safer solution.
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25 sats \ 2 replies \ @Natalia 4 Aug
I don't really trust Proton or any clouds, I also tried Nextcloud before, but then I realized that I don't have so many things that need to be synced across laptop or phone.
I'm curious, what do you use to synchronize your files, notes, and media across your phone, laptop, and tablet (if applicable)?
files & media: USB with veracrypt notes: Standard note and physical notebooks
I'm going low tech. 👀
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
physical notebooks
Interesting 🙃
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @sangekrypto 4 Aug
Yes, as far as I know, very few people use Linux anymore, let alone wallets that usually use Linux. In the past, I often watched several tutorials on using Linux wallets, it seemed suitable to discuss how to use Linux to store Sats from Stacker.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RdioActiv 4 Aug
Have you tried pulling your head out of the sand?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Skipper OP 4 Aug
very few people use Linux anymore
Linux market share continues to rise, now at 4.45%, which is the highest ever.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 4 Aug
I am windows user
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 4 Aug
Time to change of provider
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kdnolan 4 Aug
As in a Linux client?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Octopus 4 Aug outlawed
stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.