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311 sats \ 33 comments \ @Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 13 Aug bitcoin

With everything thats been going on wanted to see if anyone had a new updated list on wallets out there right now?! Have heard mixed things with Phoenix being gone from U.S but still usable how about Breez already know Zeus is the no brainer @DarthCoin what say ye?

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87 sats \ 0 replies \ @Alby 13 Aug

Check our Alby Hub, if you are looking for:

lightning wallet with your own node
open-source
your exclusive ownership of keys (self-custody)
onchain redeems and send features
app with slick interface
access from web browser or other interfaces (Blue, Zeus, BitBanana, Alby Extension)
easy channel management
NWC full support
simple migration process
running in the cloud or on your device

35 sats \ 0 replies \ @034b483ee7 13 Aug

Blockstream Green wallet and Alby Hub should be on your list to check out.

My attraction to Blockstream Green wallet is it is stupid simple and works on the desktop. Currently supports BTC on-chain and Liquid. I believe Lightning is forth coming once they get Greenlight integrated.

All of the wallet creators get an "F" in creating usable user documentation in my opinion.

35 sats \ 10 replies \ @bordalix 13 Aug

https://helm-wallet.com/

Helm is a Liquid wallet that uses Boltz submarine swaps to disguise itself as a Lightning wallet that even your grandma can use.

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Aug

Bitcoin only pls not garbage

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @bordalix 14 Aug

Did you try it?

100 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 14 Aug

Why would I use such useless garbage ? Wasn't enough the Muun crap with submarine swaps? TERRIBLE IDEA! And Liquid is just a distraction.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @bordalix 14 Aug

Well, imho if it doesn't work in Cuba, it's not Bitcoin.

Helm works in Cuba, how about the other options?

Some custodial solutions don't allow accounts from Cuba, and some non custodial solutions are not available on the Cuban app stores.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 14 Aug

Some custodial solutions don't allow accounts from Cuba, and some non custodial solutions are not available on the Cuban app stores.

LOL such a meaningless excuse.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @bordalix 14 Aug

I guess you're not Cuban...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 14 Aug

it doesn't matter. Bitcoin doesn't care where is used.

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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @freetx 13 Aug

Helm is a Liquid wallet that uses Boltz submarine

Are you the dev? It looks nice....basically like AQUA but as a PWA?

By the way, AQUA recently dropped fees to 40 sats min (Helm is still using 1000 sats). I believe this is result of an upgrade on Liquid network that allowed minimum txn fee to go much lower.

The 1000 sat min was always the thing keeping me from using AQUA as much as Green...but now with a 40sat minimum I may just stick with AQUA. (Green does have desktop wallet which is last remaining sticking point).

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 13 Aug

I sometimes use side swap for pegging but 40 is very low fee on Aqua

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @bordalix 14 Aug

Yes, I'm the dev.

Yes, it's like AQUA but focused on simplicity, so no altcoins.

Yes, it's a PWA, which means it's immune to app store censorship.

There's no server involved, you can run it on your own computer.

You can use Tor for extra privacy.

The 1000 sats as minimum amount for swap is a constraint from Boltz.

Helm also inherits the 0.01 sats/vbyte the Boltz is trying on Liquid, so Helm have the exact same fees as AQUA.

63 sats \ 3 replies \ @zapsammy 13 Aug

the suggestions below are well-vetted and familiar to most, with a long track record, the most used in the general bitcoiner community, and having the fewest issues.

on-chain wallets: bluewallet. electrum. sparrow.

newbie LN wallet: CoinOS.io web interface.

intermediate LN wallets: Phoenix (avoid or bypass socialist app-stores by getting an android & download apk, or use a VPN). Electrum desktop (opens trampoline channels)

Advanced LN wallets: Zeus Blixt

explore more here: https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lightning-wallets-comparison

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Aug

Updated on 10 Aug: https://darth-coin.github.io/wallets/lightning-wallets-comparison-en.html

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sangekrypto 13 Aug

Is this suggestion the wallet you use?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Aug

each user should use at least 2-3 LN wallets. Using only one is dumb. Each wallet app is more suitable for one or another. What I use, maybe is not so suitable for you.... Read here: choose wisely your wallet

1021 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 13 Aug

I will explain it in few images:

https://m.stacker.news/45537 https://m.stacker.news/45538 https://m.stacker.news/45539

Updated on 10 Aug 2024 https://darth-coin.github.io/wallets/lightning-wallets-comparison-en.html

37 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 13 Aug

Zeus Blixt coinOS

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 13 Aug

Electrum of course!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 13 Aug

Zeus is my go to wallet right now.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Louferlou 13 Aug

For Onchain only on desktop, the best is obviously Sparrow with maybe Electrum, even if I almost never use it, it has advanced capabilities that can help sometimes.

For Lightning the most convenient is Phoenix indeed, But recently I've been back to Breez wallet for its increased privacy compared to Phoenix and it seems it's much more reliable than in the past, I like it. Otherwise, obviously Zeus and Blixt for the most advanced and sovereign Bitcoiners among us.

Also you have kind of mixed on-chain / LN wallets. I'm actively trying Bitkit Wallet too which works very well since the v1.0, and is very slick in term of UX. In the same category we could add GreenWallet which allow onchain and LN (and other Liquid stuff) in the same wallet, but the LN part is very unreliable, at least it was the case still few weeks/months ago last time I tried it.

To conclude their is this new category of wallets that do atomic swaps between Liquid and Lightning to avoid managing LN liquidiy, that works well enough IMO I'm talking about Aqua wallet or it's twin but less known BullBitcoin Wallet, which both have of course an on-chain part also.