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These few months haven’t been easy as people squabbled over the expected codes of conduct that Stackers should exhibit on this site.
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest, how strong is the FISO (Fit In or Shove Off) pressure here?
Perhaps another more difficult question to answer:
What are some hard-core, non-negotiable norms that have worked well at SN, and is it okay if newcomers X don’t display these norms?
360 sats \ 2 replies \ @xz 23h
Well, I think in the earlier days someone asking if poetry was okay to post (as there was no one else putting down verse at the time.) I think the response was that being somewhat topically or thematically related to the core tenet of SN, anything is AOK.
When I come to SN, I don't imagine I would post something about my knitting skills or my pet fish that seems unsociable, but I guess they could be tied to the core tenet of the site. I don't see why anyone would want to post things that are antithetical to SN, like I'm going to have a meme coin, monero or whatever thematically related, sub.
Like a covenants sub would be useful because it is a real key area that is in debate.
But also like how the data is being used in transactions, but not seperate subs for the data itself. That's now just tangentially related. topics have a very clear central point and if it clearly is adjacent to ethics or tenets that 'the space' seem to agree on, the SN consensus, then what's left to say?
I don't see SN as a Reddit plus zaps. I see it more as what I imagine BitcoinTalk was, plus zaps and obviously more than that community-wise. Community is key for me, I don't interact all that much, but that's okay to still be within a comminity and spend time there.
What are some hard-core, non-negotiable norms that have worked well at SN
I don't know if there are any, but I feel at ease and have the liberty to, for example, curse. Which actually makes me feel the need to so much, much less than if I'm going to interact in a moderated environment. This is great.
I suppose by the same token if you had members of the community behaving with senseless ad-hominem, maybe that would need to stop with the sudo powers of the creators. Ranch rules? Better not to have any but if I visit someone's house and they ask me to take of my shoes..
I never head of the acronym until now, but obviously have experienced it, and it's a good point to raise. I would say SN is low on that scale but I'm not aware of all that much as I might.
Subs are good like sandboxing, so if there was a huge divide between people wanting/non wanting something, you can resolve in this way. I don't mind people chattering about shitcoins all day long, as long as I can put my headphones on.
One thing that sprang to mind when someone mentioned the style or format. I think there is a very serious threat of stiffling expression with too many rules. Especially related to humour, sarcasm and wit in particular. But also in just posting content generally. Like posting different kinds of language, code, ASCII art, whatever! I'd like to see that flourish (if that's what people like.)
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This was such a pleasure to read, so thank you for taking the time to write such a well-thought-out reply that took me a trip down memory lane. It’s nice to know that despite all these changes, SN’s core remains rock solid xP
Funnily enough, I also feel the need to curse here, though normally I just type freaking because I’m a teacher n we are supposed to have propriety haha. It’s nice to know that you feel so liberated here that you choose not to exercise the option of cursing even though you could.
You remind me of how strict Reddit subs are. Post something out of character of the sub n you can get yourself permanently banned. I remember feeling shocked when I saw Stackers posting their referral links - with no one taking them to task! Such a free country haha
Again, thank you for your time
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @xz 15h
No worries. I like to put some thoughts to paper (screen) when I have my morning coffee.
Good luck with all your endeavours and maintaining propriety ;)
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I feel like it must be fairly high, considering how low our retention rate is. However, I think it's enforced through soft power more than explicit backlash.
There are a lot of people who don't express themselves in ways that lead to engagement and there are a lot of people who are turned off by the kind of engagement they get. Neither of those points are specific to fitting in with a particular point of view, but they are about fitting in with the vibe of the community.
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I agree.
And what I’m curious about is why some established Stackers like @birdeye21 or @Bitman or @nemo (though it has been said that he lurks as anon haha) just disappear into thin air even though they were regular posters who have assimilated into the community and culture here. Why do they ‘shove off’? I guess we will never really know
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That's what I'm most curious about, too. Attracting new interesting people is great, but maintaining the relationships we've already developed is better.
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paying tax on bitcoin and using any form of shitcoin = 10 on the fiso scale anything else, pretty low i think
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I see that you separated certain aspects from others, like @south_korea_ln. Cool. I didn’t anticipate that line of thinking. I think I tend to look at things in totality - I’m not so good with the details
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I've definitely had to change how I post on SN. I don't see a lot of posts that are made with the sole intent of being humorous do very well. There's definitely room for humor, but I try to make sure anything I post has a bit more content to it.
So for that is give SN a 5. You don't get punished for not fitting in but you definitely don't get rewarded.
As far as shitcoins go, people get eviscerated here for that.
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I would really wanna see you write in your authentically funny style. Pls do so one day!
I think humour is hard to convey across the screen. I’ll like to think that I’m funny irl (or sarcastic, as my students will say), but I think I come across as a serious dude on SN haha
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Ill give it a shot sometime 😁
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I've never seen you make an attempt at humor, only well-reasoned answers to my math puzzles... kudos~~
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Hah! So true.
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Depends on what point.
FISO is likely at 10 in terms of shitcoin tolerance ;)
Liberal talking points, maybe 7?
On other topics as long as one is constructive, i don't feel much fiso.
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You reminded me of the time I posted something about Monero and got crucified here haha
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