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2556 sats \ 20 comments \ @Jon_Hodl 2 May privacy

I received a mention on Twitter about some bitcoin miners being sold off or donated or something.

I reached out to see if I could get some S9 chassis for cheap and the guy was happy to help me if I donated some sats to his buddy’s Geyser project.

I did and he sent me the hardware but I didn’t want to give my home address to an anon on the internet and defo didn’t want it on twitter’s servers.

Luckily, UPS stores will accept packages on your behalf and charge you a $5 daily hold fee.

I called my local UPS store to confirm that particular store would accept a package on my behalf. They absolutely do it but you have to write a cell phone number on the side of the box so UPS can call you when your package arrives.

I sent the local UPS store address to the guy with the mining hardware and he sent the package with my phone number written on the side.

A few days later I received a phone call letting me know that a package had arrived for me and I picked it up within an hour.

It all worked great.

It’s not some cypherpunk crypto anarchist level of anonymity by any means but the ability to receive a package at your local UPS store is a great way to receive bitcoin related packages if you don’t want to doxx your home address.

I plan to buy a ColdCard Q using this same method.

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65 sats \ 1 reply \ @nichro 3 May

Do they verify you own the phone number written on the box by calling or texting you? or is there more to it beyond that

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl OP 3 May

They literally didn’t verify anything but I think that’s because I picked it up so fast and even pointed to the box that said “Jon” on it and had my phone number written on it.

It’s possible they’re supposed to but didn’t know what they were doing. Both staff members were quite young.

104 sats \ 4 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 2 May

I had no idea this was possible, but this is a potential game changer. Especially if you can get some sort of temp/burner phone number to help dissociate yourself from it.

Thank you for sharing!

105 sats \ 2 replies \ @Jon_Hodl OP 2 May

Yeah, I was skeptical if it would work but I took the chance and it was worth it.

I used my Google voice number so my personal number didn’t get shown to every single person and robot that handles the package 📦

Now that I know how it works, I will absolutely be doing it again.

26 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 2 May

What was the process like when you picked up the package? Did they require and proof of ID, or of ownership of the phone number?

105 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl OP 2 May

They didn’t ask for any info whatsoever but I’m not sure if that’s the protocol or if they somehow fumbled.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 14h

I thought it was standard with many courier companies? At least in the UK and probably in most of Europe. I've received packages like that before and when I buy something online, I see options to have it delivered to a store that's a pick-up / drop-off point for the particular company. This includes, but is not limited to, DHL, UPS, DPD and Evri. And you can have Royal Mail packages delivered to a Post Office.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 18h

I will try this. Thanks for the tip

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl OP 13h

Yeah, I think of this kind of like a VPN for packages.

They know a lot about the entry and end points but I have privacy from the sender.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Emi 2 May outlawed

stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @eluc 21h

That is a good service to know about when needed. In Switzerland, with the Swiss Post we have the possibility to get a parcel delivered in any post office, any parcel drop location (many kiosk and local shops) and some lockers. Ok the Postal company knows everything about you but rando stranger and companies will not get your home address and you can get parcel delivered anywhere in the country for whatever reason (travel, late opening times, next to work place or place of transit...). And if you get a letter this way, it's redirected to your home.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl OP 13h

That’s awesome.

Switzerland is probably the highest level of human existence I have ever encountered.

I hope that someday we can live as well as the Swiss 🇨🇭

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 2 May

That's awesome.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @SevenOfNine 18h

I really wish this option could be baked into the delivery system though. Give us the ability to generate a code to provide to the sender and the delivery company can interpret and send the package to the correct address.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl OP 13h

I totally agree.

Something like a QR code that isn’t readable by anyone else and that just sends packages through a sort of onion route to the final destination.

I think I might be able to use PirateShip.com to make a label for the sender and then have a return address that isn’t visible to them or something but I don’t think we will ever have an anonymous package delivery system at scale in the US.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG 1h

Thanks for sharing and confirming this is possible, probably the simpler option in the US. There are other options to send and receive parcels anonymously worldwide. I've been researching about it and planning to write a post in the ~AGORA soon.

Bookmarked this for our next TM7

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @longlifelearner20 11h

I believe it is great idea to not let other people know your address i mean a lot could happen. also a good one for both peers to complete the process more frankly, less scam will be involved.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Jon_Hodl OP 11h

Yes, a layer of privacy between both parties will definitely help prevent fraud.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @longlifelearner20 11h

exactley :)