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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @south_korea_ln OP 10h \ parent \ on: Are China’s universities really the best in the world? science
Many rankings are very "Anglo-Saxon". Focus on very specific metrics as number of Nobel prizes the institute produced, number of Science and Nature papers, etc
Europe these days is pushing for much more open publishing models, away from the Elsevier and Springer power houses. This ideological choice probably affects their unis negatively in some lists.
Yes, very much PR.
But one can still extract interesting trends and see how the education landscape is evolving.
I need to find my old stamp... Much smaller, same message. I like to believe there are still a few enhanced KRW bills in circulation...
I'm not in this world of scientific papers, but I thought it was pretty well established that China is completely juicing the stats, and bulk-publishing really low quality papers.
There is/was probably truth in that, but the "China is just copying superior foreign tech and science" narrative is long gone now. China does cutting-edge research and does publish plenty of high-impact papers.
This narrative helps some people cling to their feeling of historical superiority, but it'd be better to face reality and embrace the fact that a very well-funded machine is advancing some fields in science much more efficiently than other countries are currently able to.
(these are general statements, I have no idea about your personal beliefs, other than you like yourself some meat~~)
EDIT: There is plenty of bulk-publishing of low-quality research going on, for sure. But that does not negate the quality stuff they do.
Thanks for the reference. Does this article make justice to what you are alluding to?
Indeed, i still remember reading that initial article, strongly shaping my view about the fact it was unlikely to be lab made. It was comforting in a sense as i did not want China to become the scapegoat of it all.
I was pissed as i learnt that in the end it was very likely a lab escape from research funded by the US research agencies. With Fauci putting back trust in scientific research and its institutions back to the way it was in medieval times.
But yeah, i still want to believe not all editors or referees have an agenda when deciding what to publish. It's anyhow better than flat out rejecting anything coming from the sciences. Just need to be extra cautious and critical.
I don't give much credence to rankings. Some of my most meaningful research was done in badly ranked universities.
One thing to point out is that the best grad students doing most of the grunt work in labs has often been the Chinese...
Fully agree. And not just the routine stuff, also some of the most challenging tasks. Many labs will, in the short term at least, lose steam if they were to cut off access to Chinese fellows...
Take your time~~
Thanks for getting back to me.
I would likely not have noticed if you hadn't done such a good job on improving the platform, so please take this as a positive development~~
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I'm very sympathetic to the idea here
Same here.
Not sure about how it'll work out.
I know of errors in nearly all the papers that I have studied in detail. I could make a lot of money there, just reporting all those minor errors~~
Math errors, convergence issues, etc. No bad intentions by the authors, just part of the game.
They are mostly all good papers that would not deserve public shaming. The papers advanced the field despite those small errors.
It'd be good though if this system just pushes people to publish
errata, but even then, it'd be without end in my field. There are just too many minor errors..For major errors, Retraction Watch does a pretty good job as far as I know.
got enough attention to land a grant
Agree with that. What's the business model? Who will pay once the grant runs out?
The influencers must be having a field day picking whatever side they think will give them the most cloud~~
Actually, unlike other markets where there is a Winner list, this market does not seem to have one.
Try clicking on YES button - it should take you to the market page.
This worked~~
In
order history, I only found 2 entries related to this market... but none related to the payout in case I won.Should it appear as a
Winner entry in Order History, @mega_dreamer?
Sorry for the trouble in case I am missing something...Also, when looking at some of the values in the two following screenshots, the numbers change depending on which page I look at in my portfolio:
Page 1:
Page 4:
This is what I mean with pages:
I would expect "total" to mean the total of all pages...
It looks great!
Just wondering about the outcome of this market. From this screenshot, it seems I voted "yes", right? This seems to be the right outcome, yet it says I lost?
I'm not sure how to check the resolution criteria from this closed market to make sure I am not saying something stupid... It'd be good to make them clickable from within this portfolio overview (especially the ones that are still running).