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413 sats \ 16 replies \ @ek 13 Apr 2023 \ on: Daily discussion thread
Trying to orange-pill HN by commenting HN posts that @hn crossposted and earned some sats here with a link to the SN post.
The comment could be something like this:
The links could be fully disclosed referral links.
I could also add invite links with 1-5k sats as a gift. The gift could be based on the current exchange rate.
So they always know that the sats they received were $1 worth when the invite was created.
This is a worthy goal. Good luck. I will be curious to see if you make any progress.
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Thanks. I think it's more likely my bot gets banned there haha
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Seems like my comments on HN are immediately getting shadowbanned.
They show up as [dead] when using inkognito:
This is what I posted:
Your post received 1148 sats and 11 comments on https://stacker.news [0]. To claim your sats, reply to this comment with a LN address or invoice [1].You can create a SN account to obtain a LN address.[0] #164952 (referral link)
Will contact dang to ask if there is a way to get them to show up or what rules I am breaking.
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Most likely there was some kind of scam detection that got triggered. So many scam bots mentioning Bitcoin exist that they may have a filter for it.
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Yes, could very well be it. I just sent an email:
To: hn@ycombinator.com Subject: Dead comments from stackernewsHi Hacker News,I am the creator behind the recently created "stackernews" account. [0] I am fetching top stories from HN and posting them on https://stacker.news/, a site which is very similar to Hacker News but where upvotes are satoshis. For example, see this post: #164952I wanted to provide the OP from HN the option to claim these sats. So I thought I would post a comment like this:Your post received 1148 sats and 11 comments on https://stacker.news [0]. To claim your sats, reply to this comment with a LN address or invoice [1]. You can create a SN account to obtain a LN address. [0] #164952 (referral link) [1] https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/pay...However, I have noticed that these comments show up as [dead] in incognito so I think they are getting shadowbanned. Is there something in that comment which is not allowed? If so, I would be very happy to remove it to make the comments show up.I have no ill intentions with these comments. I only want to provide the OPs the chance to claim these sats (if they want).Looking forward to hearing from you.Best Regards XXXXXXXXXXX
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Yes, sorry, but you can't post those comments to Hacker News. They're simply off topic.It's also not in your interest to do so, in my experience; I don't think the community will react well to such posts. For one thing, there's way too much cynicism around cryptocurrency stuff now; for another, they will be interpreted as an ad for your site, which will lead people to use unkind words like 'spam'.
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That's fair
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Yeah, I replied with:
Okay, I can see how these comments can be considered off topic.Thanks for the clarification and fast response!
But the part about "not in my interest" sounds like a benevolent dictator. This is why we need nostr.
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I guess you called it!
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I literally just want to give value back. Kinda ironic that HN doesn't seem to like that, lol
But maybe I just triggered some automatic mechanism.
Hopefully dang will understand that these comments have no ill intention.
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Was also thinking about commenting with LNURL-withdraw so they can withdraw the sats their post received on here.
But then I couldn't be sure that the OP and not someone else withdraws the sats ...
I would have to ask the OP first for some public key or something.
But then, I can also just ask for an LN invoice, I guess.
Any ideas?
I guess just using invite links with the sats their post received + some gift on top would be enough.
The "OP problem" still remains though
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Maybe you ask the OP to create a SN account and reply to your comment with the associated LN-URL. That way you can verify that you are sending to the OP, while at the same time minimizing the barrier of entry needed for them to start accepting sats
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Mhh. Good idea. But there could be "peer pressure" since they would "expose" themselves as being interested by replying to my comment.
So far I have been thinking about getting the invite link in some secret way to the OP.
The invite link would have the sats their post received here attached as a gift.
This way, they really just need to create an account to immediately receive the sats.
But there are no DMs on HN.
I want to find a way so there is no further interaction required by me for them to receive the sats. It should be as seamless as possible to strengthen the point how easy it is to receive sats.
But I guess I am overcomplicating things, haha
I can just start with something easy and update the bot to a better method when I found one.
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Probably best. Maybe just start with commenting the invite link and then work on the OP problem as it runs.
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Guess the first problem is actually to make these comments not be shadowbanned, lol
See #165696
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Thinking more about this, I think I will just go with your approach: Ask the OP to post an LN address or invoice.
I consider sending the sats to the wrong person a lot worse than requiring some effort from the OP.
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