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118 comments \ @saloon 28 Dec 2023 \ yesterday

Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 29 Dec 2023

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99 sats \ 1 reply \ @Silent_Hodler 29 Dec 2023

If you had, say, 10 BTC in your bag, would you sell one this bull run to secure funds for four years of freedom from working for money?

225 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 29 Dec 2023

1 BTC = four years of freedom? How high do you think we're going this cycle? 😂

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @TheWildHustle 28 Dec 2023

If bitcoin 10x's from here, 1 dollar will equal 235 sats. I'm thinking global adoption and the fiat death spiral, will put corn at 50 sats for a dollar by 2033.

1517 sats \ 4 replies \ @TheWildHustle 28 Dec 2023

I just paid 100k sats for an SN territory, it was worth every utxo.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @elysia 28 Dec 2023

Which one!?

408 sats \ 2 replies \ @TheWildHustle 28 Dec 2023

Nix OS, i've recently just switched from windows. I'm a noob, but its a cool rabbit hole.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @elysia 28 Dec 2023

Awesome, what do you like about it rather than something like Ubuntu?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 28 Dec 2023

Nix is the only distro i've tried, I'm new to linux and thought the declarative and reproducible builds were interesting.

Editing the configuration.nix file to determine what is on the comp is pretty wild, i'm still trying to wrap my head around flakes. Theres some stuff i need to do with home manager and uploading a config to my github peaks my fancy.

375 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 28 Dec 2023 freebie

It doesn't matter how hard it is to grow grapes. They don't make themselves into wine.

It doesn't matter how hard it is to make wine. They don't grow themselves into next year's grapes.

If you don't want to be a commodity, and you don't, the work is not easy and it does not stop.

2472 sats \ 8 replies \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

Welcomed baby #3 at 823090. Everyone healthy. Can't stop fiat mining though but at least get to WFH. Used the opportunity to apply to a bitcoin role.

Anyone transition into the bitcoin industry lately? Whats the good word?

314 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

Great News! Congratulations!

We'll win the battle of ideas through sheer numbers.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @gd 28 Dec 2023

Congratulations! Amazing to hear! I’m also trying to re-transition to Bitcoin, I gave myself some runway last year to do so, but had to pause and mine some fiat.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

Did you 1099? I keep pondering that as an option but have never done it.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @gd 28 Dec 2023

I’m not a US citizen, but used registered tax paying company.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 28 Dec 2023 freebie

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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 28 Dec 2023

Howdy!

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 28 Dec 2023

👋🏽

135 sats \ 6 replies \ @Lux 28 Dec 2023

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) "Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers. http://annavonreitz.com/bankruptcyofus.pdf

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 28 Dec 2023

Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt.

sharp words.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Lux 28 Dec 2023

insert @nemo Zorro action jpg

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @orthzar 29 Dec 2023 freebie

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages

This is patently false. Property taxes were common in America well before the 20th century. Heck, Abraham Lincoln was a property tax attorney; one case he won was even about a lien on a boat.

https://www.iaao.org/uploads/a_brief_history_of_property_tax.pdf

709 sats \ 27 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

Day 1 of zapping content I deem worthy until my wallet is empty and seeing how much sats I get back.

Sats to spend today: 6949

Click here for more information.

(is there a more catchy way to phrase this?)

298 sats \ 4 replies \ @jgbtc 28 Dec 2023

zap to zero

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 28 Dec 2023

been trying to zap generously yet haven't had to refill my wallet in a couple of months or so...

99 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

During my (especially) toxic phase a few weeks ago, I even zapped people aggressively.

99 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

we might have a winner here

12 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 28 Dec 2023

I like this. "Zappin' to zero"

44 sats \ 2 replies \ @orthwyrm 28 Dec 2023

hmm, what about...

Day N of zapping every day, til my wallet drains away.

Total zapped thus far: X sats

88 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 28 Dec 2023

Ah my mistake, should be "Sats to spend today", I misinterpretted the goal of your experiment.

Would be cool if you could automate by adding a graph that plots zapped vs. time, maybe there's some oscillating pattern that would emerge if charted.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023 freebie

Ah my mistake, should be "Sats to spend today", I misinterpretted the goal of your experiment.

You did but I think this running total is nevertheless a great idea! That would also make more sense since I can't tell in advance how many sats I will spend during a day.

Would be cool if you could automate by adding a graph that plots zapped vs. time, maybe there's some oscillating pattern that would emerge if charted.

Mhh, I think I'll be able to do this in retrospective, too.

Don't want to overthink this just yet. I just want to show up for now :)

409 sats \ 15 replies \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

Do you plan to update periodically to show how it's going, as per @pillar and Operation Saylor? That would be badass.

In service of this idea, here's a renewed call to have SN report the amount of sats zapped each day, in the same notification that tells you how many sats you've earned. Would help with this accounting.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

Do you plan to update periodically to show how it's going, as per @pillar and Operation Saylor? That would be badass.

How exactly do you mean? For now, I thought I would just post a comment like today which mentions how many sats I have to spend today. I could add a link to the comment of the previous day like @WeAreAllSatoshi does with his mining posts.

But I realized, I also get zapped during the day and I also need to spend these sats. So these wouldn't be included.

Maybe it makes more sense to just show how many sats I spent yesterday. I could also do a running total as mentioned by @orthwyrm here:

hmm, what about...

Day N of zapping every day, til my wallet drains away. Total zapped thus far: X sats

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

Yup, that's the kind of thing that I meant. Updates on how it's evolving. For a bonus, not just the raw numbers, but what you're noticing about the effects it has on you, others, SN at larger, etc.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 29 Dec 2023

I see. Like a journal. I think the first effect will be that I will look how much work this would be tomorrow:

In service of this idea, here's a renewed call to have SN report the amount of sats zapped each day, in the same notification that tells you how many sats you've earned. Would help with this accounting.

288 sats \ 11 replies \ @k00b 28 Dec 2023

We do need to do that, but in the meantime if you can find yourself in top stackers, it should give you an idea of what's up.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 28 Dec 2023

You've done pretty well in you shortish stint looking at forever:

1.1m stacked \ 680k spent \ 61 posts \ 1344 comments \ 0 referrals

1132 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

Not gonna lie, I look at the numbers sometimes and feel a glow of accomplishment, esp at the stacked / spent ratio :)

168 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

Alright, 3rd highest spender. Suck it @siggy47!

288 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

3rd highest spender [of the day]

so far

51 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

I will always have been the 3rd highest zapper for that 24 hour period. There's nothing you can do about it.

Also, I think I have a bigger lead on you than what you've reported being in your wallet.

288 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023 freebie

Also, I think I have a bigger lead on you than what you've reported being in your wallet.

Mhh, I see. But do you know how many sats I received since I reported this? If you continue to zap me, there are more sats that I can spend to overtake you!

edit: Oh wait. These sats also count towards your spending score, lol. And I only receive 90% of these sats. Mhh.

edit: And I already need to be more cautious with how I zap since I already zapped like 50% of my wallet in the past few minutes. Need to zap content that will give me more likely sats back.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

Have you considered an exponential decay schedule for your zaps? You'll never run out that way, but it'll get you very close to spending down your entire wallet everyday.

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718 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 28 Dec 2023

I've lost my focus during the holidays.

537 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

It's always something, isn't it?

77 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 28 Dec 2023

AND I have to save my sats for all those territories I splurged on.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Is it satanthropy? BTCevolence?

Its a form of Brewsters Millions… give it all away to get it back…

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

(Must not zap this lol…. Fail)

12 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

Backzap!

202 sats \ 9 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 28 Dec 2023

Day 10 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 867 sats! Running total: 8,246 sats!

Yesterday's comment

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

Mining with a bitaxe??

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 28 Dec 2023

Yes, and a FutureBit apollo

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

Seems like a good matchup since the apollo can run stratum. But i take it you're pool mining. My S9 does alright of late. Screaming hash NGU has been rough though.

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 28 Dec 2023

Yes, pool mining on Braiins.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

Likewise. Enjoying the new share calculation? I was skeptical but don't mind. Such small hash amount and nowhere else to put it.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 28 Dec 2023

I like the consistency of the payments. But more importantly, I like the lowered withdrawal limits which seemed to be silently implemented.

It does concern me no longer being PPLNS, since there’s some faith required, but overall I’m a fan of it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

👀 Didn't see the lowered threshold.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 30 Dec 2023 freebie

Day 11's comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @CheezeGrater 28 Dec 2023

Is anyone aware of an email service that has implemented lightning login yet?

1109 sats \ 21 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

I'm playing a new game on SN:

Spend all your sats in a day and then see how many sats you get back. If you don't get any sats back, you're out. The goal is to "stay alive" as many days as possible. So it's basically a survival game.

Maybe I am late to the party.

225 sats \ 5 replies \ @Natalia 28 Dec 2023

@ekzyis is procrastinating detected - where are all the promised posts 🧐

447 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 29 Dec 2023

btw, I detect the opposite of procrastination from you. Just busy Christmas? I hope you don't miss @DarthCoin and @nemo too much. What would I do if @Natalia also is missing?

Further btw, have you seen the thread with @nemo and @DarthCoin arguing about the stolen 4 BTC?

@DarthCoin seemed to respond very emotionally. Was kind of surprising to see.

571 sats \ 2 replies \ @Natalia 29 Dec 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 29 Dec 2023 freebie

I def miss @DarthCoin and @nemo!

Me too, I think I was more projecting regarding "hope you don't miss them too much", lol

keep procrastinating and no one here to keep reminding you? haha

haha exactly! I think I will completely overhaul my blog "soon". You were right with delphi, the contrast sucks, haha:

I like the current color, but it hurts my eye to read it.

checking

I was too lazy to find the link when I posted my reply. But now I realized it's simply the last post from @DarthCoin, lol

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

in my head

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @garyKrause_ 28 Dec 2023

Enable a survivor mode. Sats trickle into an OSS charity of your choice until they're all gone. Stay alive

249 sats \ 13 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023 freebie

I look forward to asking ‘how did you get a freebie post?’ while you wait for the sat tide to roll back in…. Lol

It is hard to give the damn things away sometimes.

321 sats \ 7 replies \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

It is hard to give the damn things away sometimes.

I've noticed the same. I wonder if I should run a more principled experiment, like @ekzyis is doing here, and @Undisciplined has done?

The main barrier is the attention that it would require to do at enough scale to matter. But maybe that could be part of the experiment too? Hmm.

161 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

Okay, that escalated quickly.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

I guess we could give reward sats back to the pool each day and live on daily zaps? Or limit the number of zaps you can make; morning balance divided by 10 say….

Why does scale matter?

24 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

Why does scale matter?

Only because me zapping twice a day is likely to disappear into the void as an effect that anyone would notice on SN. In terms of keeping our heads above water, it wouldn't matter.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Hmmm

240 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

My experiment is basically on autopilot. The only thing I do is set my default zap in the morning to 1/1000th of the balance in my SN wallet.

300 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

Are you generally in the black from this methodology, still? I remember you saying that a couple of times you were making money. Still true?

240 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

I'm hovering around 300 right now, but we've had several days in a row of content rewards which don't benefit me as much as zap rewards.

I don't recall exactly when I started and what that balance was (poor experimental design on my part), but I'm pretty sure I made almost all of my current balance over about 6 months.

I'm curious how these rapidly rising posting fees will play into it. If the rewards pool grows dramatically, I should start seeing more growth.

310 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023 freebie

Oh, I forgot about the freebie posts, lol.

I imagined the game rules to be like this:

If you don't have any more sats and you also don't get any more sats next day, you're out.

But using freebie posts makes this a lot easier. This might be easy mode. But people will see that I am a freebie now and thus might not zap me on purpose for extra difficulty. Or have mercy with me :)

I think I can also make a daily streak out of this ...

77 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 28 Dec 2023

Cool idea!

It directly conflicts with my project of trying to locate the optimal default zap amount or else I'd join in. I'll be watching with interest.

Good luck!

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

As part of this you could only use freebie posts (after 24hrs with zero sats) and you have to start it with;

‘I’m just a poor stacker, nobody loves me’

Maybe the first person to reply and zap ‘spare him his life from this monstrosity’ wins a limited edition single sat :D

36 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 28 Dec 2023

An inscription w/ @ekzyis's face crossed w/ Freddie Mercury.

228 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Is it worth clogging up the chain with inscriptions like that?…. absolutely! Lol

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko 28 Dec 2023

Markdown really needs collapsable text blocks.

Not just here on SN and Github but I fundamentally use markdown in the exact scenarios where I need to distinguis between short tldrs and long explanations.

Using links to subpages are a solution for this I guess.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 28 Dec 2023

I agree, the comments from @unpaywall would greatly benefit from this.

237 sats \ 9 replies \ @orthwyrm 28 Dec 2023

Day 257 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

...and 57 push-ups. (20 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 7)

__@_'-'

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 28 Dec 2023

👍

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 28 Dec 2023

🫡

150 sats \ 0 replies \ @mango 28 Dec 2023

Day 38 of horseposting everyday

Horse Stance: 3 minutes 10 seconds

𓃗

https://m.stacker.news/9793

97 sats \ 4 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Good job. How are you feeling?

71 sats \ 3 replies \ @orthwyrm 28 Dec 2023

Like crap, but can't be helped lol

50 sats \ 2 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Bleugh. Winter colds and bugs etc are just draining…. And boring

36 sats \ 1 reply \ @orthwyrm 28 Dec 2023

Yes and I have to fly out to see family tomorrow!

Did you have a good Christmas?

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023 freebie

I did thank you. Rest and reading! Not much work out there till New Year.

Safe journey… and don’t let your arms get tired…

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @deletedd 28 Dec 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scholarhacker 28 Dec 2023

It's Thursday already?

Uh oh...

57 sats \ 0 replies \ @RealCoachAndy 28 Dec 2023

Happy Thursday everyone, hope your week is going amazing and your strategy is working just the way you want it, having my hot cup of java and the morning here is a tad cooler than expected but air feels crisp and the day looks incredible, so my friend, I recommend you to seize it, the weekend is around the corner and let's show this week what we're made of, I believe in you and you're worthy, tell yourself that every morning, do it while brushing your teeth so that way you can see the awesome person you are. Let's kick some butt and let's do this my friend, year is almost over as well so let's end the year with a great feeling of accomplishment. May your day be successful and phenomenal!! Be well and stay frosty, my friend!!

57 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 28 Dec 2023

Looking to finish up the year strong! Let’s meet our goals all!

57 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 28 Dec 2023

😫back to work 😩

I don’t know how people of retirement age take leave and then willingly come back to this grind haha. Guess need the money with all this robbing that takes place

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @JerryGarcia 28 Dec 2023

Twenty-third Psalm Majordomo reserve me a table for three in the Valley of the Shadow just you, Alabama and me

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 28 Dec 2023

GM ⚡☕🧡

Stack Sats, stay humble.

https://m.stacker.news/9775

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @PlebLab 28 Dec 2023

https://m.stacker.news/9774

Let's shape the future of Bitcoin together. Apply for TopBuilder: https://www.topbuilder.dev/

109 sats \ 3 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Solar panels gleam, Fuel from a bright stars touch, Powers life anew.

24 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 28 Dec 2023

I like the idea of mining bitcoin with renewable sources. There's something very satisfying about clean, basically free energy turning into sats.

71 sats \ 0 replies \ @davidw 28 Dec 2023

Even just having the optionality with energy is a big win. Large upfront investment but in a world where stocks are a poor place to park cash, whether you mine or not, it will basically be paying a perpetual tax-free dividend

47 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 28 Dec 2023

Agreed. But also beyond Bitcoin, ie in the developing world to remove some of the risks around using other fuels (ie solar charged battery lamps in place of paraffin).

I think I recall that WBD were going to investigate using a stranded solar farm for mining in the same town as their football team. (Although my conspiracy theory brain has me suspecting that solar farm was put in / earmarked to help remove infrastructure objections for a planning application currently in the works.)