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160 comments \ @saloon 4 Nov \ yesterday

Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

2 sats \ 0 replies \ @2053456d48 10h

Keep using stacker news and engage with Bitcoin all the time!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h

Rather than slow down, the pendulum of American politics is swinging more wildly.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 14h

Mamdani wins New York. Guess we can give socialism the old college try

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 17h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 15h

He earned his PhD

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 17h

Question for Mr @ek. I just attached a second wallet. Will the most recent attached wallet serve as a backup for the first? Is there a way to switch between wallets without detaching them?

36 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 17h

You can drag wallets around

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 17h

Ah. That's right! Connections will be maintained?

36 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 17h

Yes, dragging only changes priority.

More (potentially confusing) info here.

I just noticed this wasn’t updated yet:

On mobile, you need to click on a wallet and then select where you want the wallet to be.

Mobile now also uses dragging.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 17h

Thanks. I think I asked you this before but forgot (again)

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 17h

No worries

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fenix 17h

Ty good stranger

21 sats \ 19 replies \ @Car 18h

i just found out today the usa government is shutdown, someone should really just post regular news here too 🤣

300 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 17h

Lol wait I just saw this 😭💔 Im tryinggggg

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 17h

thanks for your service ✌️

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Coinsreporter 18h

You must be highly drunk this all month long ;)

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Car 18h

October was a busy month, think it just goes to show i am back to my normal schedule again.

Kind of sad or good didn't even notice.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 17h

oh! It's good you missed it. I don't think it affects Bitcoiners directly.

I was busy too and it's highly likely that I'll be busier this month too with the wedding season's on here. My two brothers are gonna be marrying in next few days this month. And yeah, I've a job at Bitcoin related stuff here too.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 17h

on a positive note, the fact that the gov't can be shut down for 30 days and many people not notice kinda shows the resiliency of the American system

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 17h

wild

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 18h

You're hilarious

There have been tons of posts and a month-long prediction market on Predyx that already closed

I think the takeaway is that you need to read the front page of bitcoin more

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

paid shill for gambling

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined 18h

I don't say things I don't believe and I certainly wouldn't for the small amount they boosted us with

10 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

prostitution is the same if you do it for 1 cent or 1M

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 18h

It's hilarious how dumb you are sometimes

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 17h

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 17h

Beer is mentioned too, so either that's wrong or it includes you

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23 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 18h

#1269660 #1267541 #1263378 #1262212 #1257554 #1257229 #1256780 #1256687 #1250626 #1247628 #1244642 #1243889 #1243244

lol, Car

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 18h

@Cje95 is legend also thanks for this gotta lot catching up to do

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 17h

Lmao thank you welcome to being “essential” but only having a single meeting at 4pm 🙄

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 18h

I just realized... How is there not a predyx market for the mayor of new york election?

30 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 18h

i mean, degens are gonna degen. I guess the degeneracy isn't saturated yet haha

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

no, this is just idiocy already. Any sane real bitcoiner will value every of his sats and will not gambling it. But spending it on things that really matter and are necessary. If you gamble with your sats it means you learned absolutely nothing about Bitcoin.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 18h

whoa we hit sub 100

109 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 18h

market is risk-off cuz they don't know about the zombie cure

100 sats \ 12 replies \ @k00b 20h

omg my voice is annoying?!?

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @plebpoet 13h

it's like a 5 /10, not horrible

100 sats \ 8 replies \ @k00b 13h

You’re calling my voice mid-annoying when you sound like a stoned 12yo that just drank a gallon of milk.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @plebpoet 2h

Hm I don’t think that’s true. I couldn’t imagine what that sounds like

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 4m

fair, i can't imagine a homeless man that looks like he smells of lamb and eats a wheel of brie each day.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @plebpoet 3m

good random word generator ur using

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 1m

it's called a brain you milk glugger!

20 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 5h

you sound like a stoned 12yo that just drank a gallon of milk

lol not bad

Fwiw, I think both of your voices are calming

Now I wonder what my voice sounds like

33 sats \ 2 replies \ @plebpoet 5m

you sound like a very serious robot a lot of the time. nothing wrong with that

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 4m

Ohh right, someone in school also told me something like that

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @plebpoet 3m

we'll all sound like robots soon....or do they sound like us

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OneOneSeven 15h

nah, don't listen to this Randy

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic 20h

make it fun with voicemod.net

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 20h

115 sats \ 0 replies \ @zapsammy 21h

https://xcancel.com/skillz17q/status/1983933525368680525

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 21h

it's nice to not feel pressure to post at least once every couple hours

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 21h

lol had to go to X to realize the price was down despite it being in SN's navbar

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 20h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 21h

i can't predict the future, but bear markets are great. people get absolutely silly when they think their riches will spontaneously give them more riches. the crowd goes mad, feeding on hopeful bs, and not just bitcoin bs, because if you want imbibe bs properly, you have to accept all kinds of it.

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @rootmachine 21h

My zombie infection was cured by a mysterious stranger. Forever grateful to whoever had pity on me not having too much time these days. See you guys around probably next week.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @030e0dca83 22h

"1000 sats on a dollar" season is getting back?

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 22h

I'm cured by @Undisciplined.

None of you do not matter to me anymore, haha.

248 sats \ 41 replies \ @k00b 4 Nov

new trial tagline: "24/7 bitcoin meetup on a website"

the goal is something that makes immediate sense to outsiders even if it's insufficient for us insiders.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @plebpoet 13h

yeah

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 16h

I like it a lot! It has a nice simple sound to it, like something I actually want to go check out.

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @deSign_r 19h

24/7 bitcoin meetup on a website

bland...

How about "Enlightning communities with value" or "Enlightning people with value"

no, Enlightening is not misspelt... it clearly refers to LN, but for normies it may read misspell. It just adds some human touch. Keep it generic, community is definitely a value in SN. Used value at the end instead of bitcoin because that's what's given around here by users. And is given with words (knowledge) first, and with sats (that's just a detail).

If not defined anywhere yet, I highly suggest you guys take some time with the team to run a strategy workshop for defining Vision, Mission, ad future objectives for SN.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 19h

we know where we are going

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @deSign_r 9h

this pitch is great for LPs, similar discourse could work to engage with more territory funders. Not ideal to onboard the next wave of new stackers.

The tagline should be attractive for the target audience. It could be tricky because every territory operate differently. I found "En-lightning people with value" is a common ground that apply to all territories. Audience does not need to know abut bitcoin, just need to be willing to learn about a new platform.

Another one I read around that could work really well is "fixing communities with economics". A copywriter could help find better wording

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 19h

If I never visited SN before, I would have no idea what that meant.

oh great another product that's so full of shit, so bland they have to make up for it by spewing crap, that they can't even just say what the f they are in way that I understand

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 19h

is that a response chadGPT just gave you?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 18h

nothing makes me boil like vague copy

usually you can explain more by trying to explain less

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @SimpleStacker 19h

How about "The Most Based Community on the Interwebz"

I definitely like putting the word community in the tagline!

102 sats \ 7 replies \ @k00b 19h

imo community means so many things that it's practically meaningless.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @SimpleStacker 19h

i'd argue that it only has one usual meaning, which is a group of people who share something in common

not sure if it has other meanings besides that

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 19h

fair, but it's used to describe too many things. it doesn't really tell me anything except that there are based people peopling on the internet. it's helped by "most" but that's super unverifiable.

free your mind of ever having heard of SN. what would you need to hear - from someone you do not trust at all - to best understand what SN is and as fast as possible.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 19h

"Reddit, but without stick-up-their-butt moderators, and where not every post is a stupid meme followed by 100 people (or bots) repeating the same stupid meme. Oh, and you earn bitcoin tips instead of upvotes"

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 19h

Excellent! Just too long ... and referencing reddit will always require the rest of the tag to be a diff.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @deSign_r 19h

yeah I prefer "people" too

50 sats \ 11 replies \ @Undisciplined 19h

I like the direction but it's a bit meh

How about "The never ending bitcoin meetup" or "On demand bitcoin meetup"?

112 sats \ 10 replies \ @k00b 19h

"1000 songs in your pocket" vs "the never ending music player" vs "on demand music"

When we think of copy, we tend to think fantastical is better because of how we feel when we use fantastical words, but literal/concrete (and, yes, ideally profound) makes easier sense and an easier sell.

I'll give you that the tagline is literal in a boring way, but if we want to make it more interesting we:

don't want to reduce the concreteness
we want to use words that we would in normal conversation

We want to make the truth interesting without having to use words that we'd categorize as interesting by themselves.

63 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 18h

"1000 autists in your pocket"

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 18h

Perfection!

200 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined 18h

I like "1000 songs in your pocket" because it's short, intriguing, and tangible.

I was trying to think of how to word a pitch that made SN sound like an all-night diner or all-you-can-eat buffet but I didn't come up with anything.

I don't like the "on a website" part because I don't think people prefer that (or want to prefer that) to IRL, so you're planting a dig in your own pitch. Just "24/7 bitcoin meetup" is better.

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 17h

Best little whorehouse in the west came to mind...

Can we do something like the Best Little Bitcoin Meetup on the Web?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 17h

I like it

42 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 18h

I agree but "on a website" grounds the metaphor hmmm

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 18h

I think it's ok to leave that implied

75 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 17h

I really like the 24/7 Bitcoin meetup on a website.

It sounds kinda simple and charming to me. It says what it is.

But if you think website makes it too long, what about

The 24/7 Bitcoin meetup with zaps

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 17h

If the goal is for it to be meaningful to non-bitcoiners, then you can't talk about zaps.

I think I'd even like "A 24/7 virtual Bitcoin meetup" more. It's really the "on a website" that feels like a turnoff.

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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 19h

I was on linkedin today and saw someone I know with their truncated bio of "Pioneering ______" and I puked in my mouth a little. I know I'm extra sensitive to this, but I don't think I'm wrong about how f'ing pat this stuff is.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

Bitcoin must be learned when is needed not when is wanted.

75 sats \ 10 replies \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

what's wrong with "The Frontpage of Bitcoin"?

77 sats \ 0 replies \ @billytheked 4 Nov

I like this one, it feels authentic in a very SN fashion. Spinning off Reddit's tagline has always felt tad hokey to me. Just my two sats.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @k00b 4 Nov

I can't easily ...

visualize it
verify it

And it's something that any bitcoin news site, of which there are many, can say.

It's just too abstract. No mental locking pins click when I read it.

11 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

True. And SN has more than just bitcoin discussion.

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @billytheked 23h

More than just bitcoin discussion

That's a good tagline! 😃

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 23h

Actually, yeah, it's not bad!

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

SN is not about bitcoin anymore...

30 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 4 Nov

yes, but like a bitcoin meetup, all of us are bitcoiners that discuss bitcoin and non-bitcoin things

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 23h

I think we are overwhelmed by shitcoiners rn... and by shitcoiners I mean including fiat maxis.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @billytheked 13h

I think we are overwhelmed by alligator tears for Darthcoin

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36 sats \ 5 replies \ @sox 4 Nov

#678449 is the item I use to test the new editor rendering capabilities.

It's amazing how the only sentence that breaks quote nodes is the following:

350 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

> Urgent Action Required: SEC Lawsuit
Dear Siggy the idiot old guy,

Urgent Action Required: SEC Lawsuit Dear Siggy the idiot old guy,

> Urgent Action Required: SEC Lawsuit

Dear Siggy the idiot old guy,

Urgent Action Required: SEC Lawsuit

Dear Siggy the idiot old guy,

interesting...

line breaks don't break quote mode, but paragraph breaks do.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @sox 4 Nov

You got the bug! The markdown transformer doesn’t know how to handle line breaks. So a line break would create a full paragraph node instead of… a line break

But I’ll teach it.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

Would that break formatting of older posts?

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @sox 4 Nov

The goal is to avoid precisely that! I want to achieve 1:1 formatting before migrating anything

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ZombieNurse 4 Nov

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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 4 Nov

God Bless You All 🕊️🕊️🕊️

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ZombieNurse 4 Nov

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 4 Nov

Happiness Journal 4/11/25

Upon picking my boy up from school, he eagerly rummaged through his bag to show me his Chinese magazine. He had learnt that clownfish change their gender to adapt to changing circumstances and wanted to let me know.

I also had something to tell him. The rhinoceros hornbill, said to have been extinct in Singapore, was recently spotted on our city-state. Maybe it had come over from Malaysia. Swapping one interesting fact for another.

I guess it’s nice to live through life having some people occupy prime territory in my mind.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 4 Nov

@optimism, no "The Week in AI" this week?

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

"AI" got fired...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 21h

ahahahahahh

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

What's the relation between government shutdown and air traffic control?

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

human stupidity

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DP0604 4 Nov

What is this? Damn 🤔

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @suraz 4 Nov

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carter 4 Nov

ty anon

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

Wumbo’s Picks!!

56 sats \ 2 replies \ @billytheked 4 Nov

Aaaand another one bites the dust....

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

Hahaha

85 sats \ 0 replies \ @billytheked 4 Nov

Yee -haw thanks for the shot ;)

35 sats \ 2 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 4 Nov

22 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

seen... you are a paid shill by big pharma

59 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 4 Nov

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG0RA 4 Nov

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @guerratotal 4 Nov

“Civilization is a discipline, an achievement in self-culture and self-control, and the only civilizing agent is a spirit manifesting itself through reason, imagination, and religious inspiration, and giving a sort of mintage to acts which would otherwise be without meaning.” — Richard Weaver

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DP0604 4 Nov

deep thought 💭

2 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 4 Nov

thanks

71 sats \ 2 replies \ @OT 4 Nov

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @OneOneSeven 4 Nov

Project Blue Beam

27 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

they are already doing it with all those drones show... preparing the weak minds

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @guerratotal 4 Nov

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @zapsammy 21h

very good! bitcoin is a portal into a world where hard work gets rewarded properly; one must still get up and walk the stairway to heaven; #1273844

69 sats \ 2 replies \ @guerratotal 21h

Excellent article, very good.

When I was a child, I grew up in a Masonic lodge. My father is a 32nd-degree Mason, my brother was a Mason up to the 18th degree... but I never wanted to be one.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 20h

Mark Passio explains that almost no one in the mainstream masonic lodges deserves to go past the 1st degree, because they cannot truthfully answer the question "how does one know that he is suffering?"

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 20h

Very good question! As a Christian, I could answer it... but as a Freemason, I don't know what answer to give.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 4 Nov

Day 677 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 490 sats on 3Nov2025! Running total: 435,437 sats!

Yesterday's comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 5h

Day 678's comment

11 sats \ 8 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

I’m cured!!

111 sats \ 5 replies \ @billytheked 4 Nov

@SimpleStacker fought valiantly to save us all, and sacraficed his own life.

104 sats \ 4 replies \ @SimpleStacker 4 Nov

As soon as the cure was ready, I used it on a few people and went to sleep, knowing that it would inevitably spread and come back to me! Haha

75 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 22h

i couldn't stand the thought of you not sleeping. i would've let the zombies take over. only 14 of you remained uninfected in the end

166 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 22h

If you hadn't deployed it that night, I think I would've gone to sleep anyway and taken my chances, just hoping there would be at least someone out there still uninfected

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @billytheked 4 Nov

🫡

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

Sheesh

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 4 Nov

you will be cured only when you will drop all that fiat shit from your mind.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

Not according to SN! I got my shot

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 4 Nov

121 sats \ 6 replies \ @Lux 4 Nov

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 4 Nov

Practicing What You Preach: Samourai Could Demix Transactions #1273202

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

Didn’t they tell users they did this?

70 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 4 Nov

I think it was well known that Samurai mobile wallet was exposing your XPUB. Sparrow had it blinded so I'm not sure why they couldn't do it too

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Nov

I forgot the reason why they did it but if you ran your own node I think you avoided this privacy leak

87 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 4 Nov

I’m not a specialist, but I think some users have to provide the xpub. Is that right, @DarthCoin?

The prosecution herein refers to a main point of criticism of Samourai Wallet's design by competitors and privacy advocates, in which users who did not run their own node provided their extended public key (XPub) to Samourai Wallet's coordinator, allowing the developers to cross-reference transactions.

But the memorandum incorrectly assumes that there was "no technical or operational necessity to do so." As Hill clarifies, "the need to collect this 'XPUB' data was driven the functional necessity of calculating balances" while operating a light wallet, highlighting that only around 20% of users were affected by this design decision.

#1273202