Emily Wilson is the only one of the four great Odyssey translators still alive (Chapman, Fitzgerald, and Fagles being the other three), and she has a lot of thoughts on Nolan's movie.
The entire piece is entertaining and well-worth reading, but the tl;dr is that it's an entertaining movie (her teens loved it) that doesn't serve the source material well.
She's not insisting on utter faithfulness:
Adaptations needn’t and shouldn’t follow the original with anything like the exactitude of a translation. Some of the best radically transform or resist the source material, providing what Harold Bloom called ‘strong misreadings’ of their ancestors. The most memorable creative responses to The Odyssey – such as Euripides’ Helen, Virgil’s Aeneid, Milton’s Paradise Lost, Joyce’s Ulysses, Walcott’s Omeros, Atwood’s Penelopiad, Madeline Miller’s Circe or Lisa Peterson’s play set in a modern migrant camp – reconsider the poem’s structure, narrative and values.
But in the end, this definitely did not strike her as a "strong misreading."
As they say at the awards shows, I was humbled to learn that Nolan has read at least the first line of my translation of The Odyssey into iambic pentameter. In at least one interview, he cited my version of the first line of the poem: ‘Tell me about a complicated man.’ But I would be ashamed to have written any part of this script. Sadly, Damon’s Odysseus isn’t complicated or wily or artful. One of Odysseus’ funniest (and most famous) tricks in Homer is to tell Polyphemus that his name is ‘No Man’. When the blinded giant screams for help from his neighbours, the other Cyclopes are reassured to learn that ‘No Man’ is hurting him. In the movie Odysseus doesn’t have to outwit Polyphemus because the Cyclops is a puppet who has no wits. Nolan’s grunting one-eyed giant is referred to as ‘it’, barely speaks, doesn’t get drunk and has neither neighbours nor a favourite sheep.
Later:
Nolan’s Odyssey lacks many of the elements that make the poem great. It has nothing convincing to say about time, memory, history, war, or about the relationship between one warrior’s glorious return and the lives of his family, adversaries, comrades, friends and neighbours. It lacks psychological, emotional, political and ethical depth. Its narrative structure is gimmicky. The writing is abysmal. None of the characters has convincing motivation for their actions or words. There are no sex scenes, and all the food looks horrible.
This isn't going to stop me from seeing the movie, of course, and honestly, it's about what I expected (though I'm disappointed at the Cyclops bit, since that's such a core and well-remembered moment in the story; it'd be like Hamlet without "Alas, poor Yorick").
Entire piece is entertaining and well worth the read, whatever your take on the film (or lack thereof, if, like me, you haven't made it to the theatre yet).
I don't get how she ever got the reputation for writing the "woke" translation. If anything, it's the exact opposite. Her translation is the closest to the Greek original, Wilson is the TRAD choice.
This is completely false. Her translation looks nothing like the original Greek as they would have understood it.
Her translation is nothing like ancient Greek ACTORS would have played it on STAGE. But is exactly like the text was written.
Directly translating the words from one language to another will yield incredible misunderstanding. Also, it's impossible. Language just doesn't work that way.
Wilson is not traditional, her translation is flawed and misleading.
Fagles translation has more credibility
Fitzgerald translation is or was most widely read in the academy
That seems to be the most boring and predictable answer ever!
Also, that second quoted text is WONDERFUL. What a take down
I thought this was pretty damning:
terrible omen. hard pass. sticking with poetry.
yeah, I mean, Homerian poetry without sex and delicious food... what do you think we are, brits?!
What is going on with the downzapping on this?
It's become political. Right wingers hate Wilson and they recently found out that Wilson is, and has always been, a conservative. Since rightoids have lower intelligence, the panic and downvote out of confusion and frustration
Why do they hate her, though? I have trouble imagining having strong feelings about a translator of a book that I don’t particularly care about.
I'm genuinely baffled by it. I've never paid more than 21 sats for a downvote, and can't imagine paying that many sats even if someone posted the most vile thing imaginable. Glad the territory owners will get some nice payouts, though.
If you hated Emily Wilson so much (which I'm guessing is the situation), why wouldn't you at least go on a tirade in the comments about it?
Yeah, like, I'd actually like to know (tirades can be fun). I can't imagine it's all from that one anon commenter.
Her translation is flawed... for example, Odysseus is not cunning or resourceful but dishonest
One of the four great translators??? Her translation is every bit as bland as Nolan's screenplay. Also, you forgot Latimore.
Wilson is not bland. Wilson is ACCURATE. Because the Greek original is like that too. It's a theatre screenplay. The flavour comes from the acting, not from the text.
Her translation is wrong compared to Fagles
and Fitzgerald
Both Fitzgerald and Fagles invent stuff out of thin air that isn't there in the original. From fiat. All this flowery language is bullshit and wrong.
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Wrong on both counts.
Tell me which opening line sounds most credible:
Opening lines of the Odyssey
Robert Fitzgerald (1961)
Sing in me, Muse, and through me tell the story
of that man skilled in all ways of contending,
the wanderer, harried for years on end,
after he plundered the stronghold
on the proud height of Troy.
Robert Fagles (1996)
Sing to me of the man, Muse, the man of twists and turns
driven time and again off course, once he had plundered
the hallowed heights of Troy.
Emily Wilson (2017)
Tell me about a complicated man.
Muse, tell me how he wandered and was lost
when he had wrecked the holy town of Troy…
I'm not sure I could answer that fairly? One of my problems with Wilson is the thing she does for credibility, restraining herself to the same line count as Homer. But just Bloom's "strong misreadings" can be good, so can "weak" ones by the translators. All three are great and readable, and that's what I want in a translation.
she refuses to say sing vs tell
same line count as Homer? sounds like a lazy way to be original
LinkedIn translation:
I'm thrilled to share a new chapter in my journey! 🚀
I am excited to announce the launch of a strategic narrative focused on a high-performing leader who is skilled in all areas of competitive differentiation. This individual is a resilient wanderer who has been navigating complex market dynamics for years on end. Following a decisive pivot to capture key assets at the stronghold on the proud height of Troy, we are now aligned with a new mission to scale impact.
Grateful for this opportunity to reframe our story and drive growth. 💼✨ #Leadership #Strategy #GrowthMindset #Troy
Nice find! I was wondering if she would wrote anything about the movie.
Thanks! I'd seen a few off-hand comments from her, but this was the first big thing.
(This is also now my most-downvoted post ever after fifteen minutes. Woo!)
Yes! 💯
it doesn't mean Helen should be black