I won't say I believe the CIA did it but I think at least they know who did it.

I really think anyone who can't name one they don't believe needs to check their gullibility.

Same goes for anyone that doesn't believe any of them. What I used to tell people like that is many things were theory until they were exposed. Watergate is a great example.

I also remember during the Covid times people I knew that didn't buy what the government was telling them but then they'd believe some random dude on social media obviously shilling a product and spewing non-sense. And I'm not talking about the many doctors or people with evidence behind them. I'm talking about the real crackpots.

I have a theory that US citizens have had it so good that we have far to much trust in government and other people. Most of the people I know that came out of oppressed nations do not share this attribute. They seem to be far more skeptical of authority and people trying to scam them.

The Moses thing isn't really a "conspiracy theory" is it?

Believing all vaccines are bad is pretty rare. That's a psyop to squash dissenting voices. Vaccines like all treatments/medicines have tradeoffs as well as side effects. When you hear people saying you are anti-vax because you don't want to take one or more of them that's like saying someone that is opposed to eating bad food is anti-food. These are people that do not think.

Yeah the 9/11 investigation was a joke. Clearly they were covering up something. I am not convinced it was an inside job but just like JFK the investigation was designed to construct a believable narrative that preserved the illusion of our system. That is always the case though. If you expect justice from these institutions you do not understand incentives.

What I find more interesting about 9/11 is how it was used as the pretext to do a bunch of stuff many in power wanted to do already. You see this with Covid as well. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Starting the movie now. Spoiler: The Rothschilds did it.

Yes, great movie. It's been a while - I'm probably due to watch it again.

If you look at the incentives it kinda makes sense. It would be hard to get gov funding and grants contra climate change. Similar to how pharma is not gonna study nutrition. Its not their business model. Making dugs is

Your first one is interesting to me, because I think most of the people perpetuating it are just useful idiots who really believe the propaganda. However, the people intentionally fabricating scientific evidence or activists fabricating evidence for their sensational claims clearly know they're being dishonest.

Do you subscribe to a particular theory wrt the Vegas shooter? All I know is that that story is weird as hell and the media lost interest in it way too abruptly.

That's your homework. There better be at least one.

What is the conspiracy? Vegetables are poison? Don't you think that is a bit reductive? All vegetables? Haven't heard that one. Population control is not a conspiracy. Its in the wide open. Its marketed lol.

At a minimum the "healthcare industry" is focused on "treatment" not solutions. Pharma has no interest in nutrition. Personally my rational position is that humans have eaten meat for thousands of years. Vegetables as well but most populations ate mostly meat before the development of cities. And what have we seen in the last 100 years? A bunch of chemical companies creating lab based foods to save money and "feed the world".

I know to many people that have went off of factory food and saw huge benefits to make me believe that nutrition is not a huge issue for the world. Sugar as well as fake sugars are probably one of the worst things for our health. It sure isn't meat. I will grant that factor farms raising animals are inhuman and that meat has issues but I would rather eat that than the chemical crap most people eat.

I guess that depends on their definition of "inside job", which is open to a modicum of interpretation. I found it more shocking to see one fellow explicitly say 9/11 was not a controlled demolition. Which is just... well, stupid.

That's the kindest word I can think of for that statement. The science behind the controlled demolition explanation is iron clad, and anyone claiming otherwise is a bad actor, or a complete fool.

Yeah, flat earth is BS. Its so absurd I didn't even think to mention it in my OG post. Glad someone did though.

I think it's time for you and @siggy47 to go sailing and test this infinite flat earth idea out. I think you'll change your mind in much the same way you did regarding birds. eventually you'll accept that the earth isn't infinite, and also that it's not on a flat plane

Thats just basic crapflation for you :) Fiat standard makes everything worse. Including animation.

I tend to think the deep state is far more subtle. TV producer Norman Lear created an org that writes scripts to push messages on audiences. I don't know of any connection between Lear(who died this year) and the CIA but its just one example of what you are talking about.

When you read about the CIA (Legacy of Ashes) you learn that they have connections in many places and influence many things. Its naive to think they do not do this with Hollywood.

me too

Are you serious? Developing countries are even more controlled. If you study what the US and China have done to manipulate these places its criminal.

Take a look at "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" for a look at what you are describing. I mean, someone else pulling the strings in most governments isn't really a theory. Its fact. Look at the revolving doors into private industry, how much politicians are worth going into office vs. leaving not to mention the way legislation is written in the US. Large companies and lobbyists run the country.

The big disagreement is what to do about it.

The other important thing about "the Great Reset" is that its not a theory. It is a conspiracy though not a new one. All WEF are is a marketing arm for world elites. The idea that this is not the case is frankly absurd. Many make it sound spooky because it make their conspiracy theory videos more interesting. This is a tactic that Alex Jones has used for years. Take facts that are rather dull and boring yet true. Then sensationalize them. It is kinda smart. Not only does it make them more entertaining it also can protect the person from being targeted. That is until they are a threat to the system. Alex got to much traction. I am annoyed with how he exaggerates. He is no dummy though.

The more I've thought and looked at the whole CBDC's thing the more boring it is. Its gonna happen. In some ways it already exists. Right now its just splintered. If you use Visa, SWIFT, or ACH you are on the system. The banks and governments will add new tools like FEDNow to the system and everyone will be using them. The dollar will not be replaced. It will just be how people use dollars.

So, my thought is ignore CBDCs and focus on bitcoin adoption/circular economies. CBDCs are the new "cashless society" meme. People hear about and get all emotional but do nothing about it. This is one of the things that annoys me about people that get to into conspiracy theories. They get distracted in figuring it all vs. freeing themselves from it all.

They aren't gonna end "free" democracies. They love democracies because people believe they have a voice when they don't. They want to save democracy. They say it all the time. They mean it. The issue is that democracy is a false god that failed to free us. Instead it allows elites to control the masses by making them believe they need politicians and democracy.

Highly recommend https://mises.org/library/democracy-god-failed-audio

Is terrain theory a conspiracy theory? I'm not very familiar with it.

I don't need to believe the CIA killed to JFK to doubt the system. There is enough in what they admit doing. Read "Legacy of Ashes". Its all on the record stuff. And it is stuff the average Joe probably thinks is crackpot. And that's just one agency.

lol, who believes their toaster is listening to them? Your phone and smart speaker are but do you have a smart toaster?

I mean it's known that they're listening through smart devices. IDK how smart your toaster is but pretty much everything else they've got a line to it

Ohh, interesting, I like when people are able to think in nuances like this. Care to elaborate why you think so? They "lost" their real footage?