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0 sats \ 29 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 26 Sep \ parent \ on: The Whipping Boy of Modern Culture - CAPITALISM bitcoin
You seriously believe that individuals will not need the security and protection of the nation state?
Have you seen Israel Palestine Lately?
Have you seen Ukraine Lately?
China? Who are funding both conflicts in a proxy war against the USA.
Are you serious?
Give me one example anywhere in human history of a jurisdiction where government was absent but where people could live secure and productive lives.
Just one?
You cannot.
You have much to learn... #586916
But you will never learn until you will be able to step out from the "state cage" mindset.
As I said many times, but people do not want to understand this powerful meme
When you will be capable to understand it, then we can talk. Until then... good luck in your state cage.
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State cage mindset is a great phrase for it. It is a mental cage for sure.
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You fail to respond let alone refute any pf the facts and issues I raise instead replying with your stock in trade of troll name calling.
I am here for reasoned debate not name calling- if you cannot respond to the ideas and challenges I have thrown your way with a fact based reasoned and respectful reply then you lose the contest of ideas by default.
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There's no point in talking with a statist that do not want to step out of the "comfortable state box" and be responsible for his own actions.
As there's no point in talking with shitcoiners.
IT IS WASTING TIME.
btw, just by looking to your history posts on SN and is clear now that is only garbage in your brain. The state infected so much your brain that is non-recoverable.
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Its true. I have little interest in arguing but I get sucked into it.
I'll tell you. If someone is trying to convince me to believe in the state they are wasting their breath. If you want that you can just basically talk to any human on the planet.
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If you have confidence and understanding of your belief then you welcome the contest of ideas- if however your understanding is weak and based more on group joining following herd mentality then you will feel uncomfortable when your ideas are contested and will react negatively.
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Name calling.
You cannot refute the facts and issues I have raised.
Issues which expose the weakness of your Libertarian religion.
You cover your insecurity with name calling because you cannot respond to and refute the issues I have raised.
You lose the contest of ideas by failing to even engage with the ideas resented to you.
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your text sounds like redditGPT
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You again resort to crude troll response rather than responding to the actual issues raised.
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statist
Is that what you are referring to? Always cracks me up when people consider this a slur. You say we need a state but don't like statist?
Then you call Libertarianism a religion. I assume you mean that as an insult.
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without the protection of the state you would be in a sorry state yourself.
Have you ever lived where the state is truly failed?
Go to Somalia or Afghanistan and see how you like it.
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@DarthCoin are you Nakamoto 😀 curiously this thinking is rare or do you have the "Bitcoin standard" because this what exactly I learnt
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most probably I came from the future...
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Circle jerking Libertarians
You would be shivering wrecks without the wealth and security the state provides you.
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governments do not fix anything. They only fuck up things.
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LOL this one deserve to be converted into a meme
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This is true of most humans. Its fair in my experience when it comes to self sovereignty. That said, the Covid19 really woke a lot of people up to becoming more sovereign and prepared for things falling apart.
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I am as free as I want to be- much freer than most people ~ who choose to be slaves.
The sad reality is most people do not want to be free because its hard work.
In terms of the state - the nation state is the geographical collective of people who act under collective rules and compete with other aggregations of people- they are the largest organised groups of people with a common territory and as such naturally compete against other groups.
Thinking you can discard that structure which has been at play since DNA and life began is naive.
Yes the state is a cage but also a protective and nurturing structure.
If you discard it you will be easy prey to the nearest despot.
You live in a nation state that has been largely successful in gaining resource wealth and hegemony over other peoples and territories- you are taking that fact and reality for granted.
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the nation state is the geographical collective of people who act under collective rules and compete with other aggregations of people
No, you are wrong.
And I will explain it to you with another 2 simple images:
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People chose to live in the nation state for its protection and wealth. People flock to more wealthy nations for the opportunities they offer. Yes you surrender some freedom in any organisation but you also gain strength in numbers.
Libertarians are naive in the extreme in thinking that you could be secure living outside of any organised power structure capable of defending you against predatory external organised groups.
Yes nation states can be characterised as legitimised mafia protection rackets- but most people accept the benefits are greater than the costs.
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