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Pay it forward initiative | Bitcoin is kindness

39k sats \ 135 comments \ @DarthCoin 19 Sep 2023 bitcoin

Pay It Forward for a new Bitcoiner!

I would like to tell you a story... not long ago, in 2021. I did an experiment to see how nocoiners respond to Bitcoin kindness.

In 2021 I was running a Telegram group to help people with Bitcoin advice. Were mostly with members from UK. One of the members is/was running a coffee shop business accepting BTC over LN He even have shown prices in sats directly, no fiat!

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/W60L4VWe0Q7ZQk1rk2s-9eeIzVaUB8pSy3mAhu1b4s0/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvZlJkeExkeVEvU2F0LXByaWNlcy5qcGc

So I said to him: man, let's do an experiment with some nocoiners. The first customer will enter in your coffee shop, tell her/him that somebody from thousands of km will pay for his coffee with Bitcoin, instantly, no intermediary. All set, he was just ready to send me the invoice.

So not after so long entered a lady into the shop. Nocoiner. Totally clueless what is Bitcoin and what is going on. She just wanted a coffee. Jake (shop owner) told her about our experiment and she totally agree. She even wanted to see how this new thing Bitcoin works.

So Jake made a LN invoice in his LN wallet, sent it to me by Telegram and I pay it. Done. In just few seconds. Lady.M was so impressed about the whole process that immediately she want to learn more about Bitcoin and joined to our Bitcoin Telegram group. Later I was helping her with all she needed for her business too (she's a chiropractitioner).

I told her: See? that coffee was paid, with sovereign money transmitted over any borders, instantly, without any intermediary, without any control from any entity, only me and the sender knows about it. Can you do the same with any other currency, right now? The answer was straight NO.

My proposal now

Let's do such experiment here on Stacker News! LIVE!

I know I am risking to be scammed with a new anon SN account. I don't want to know who you really are, I don't care too much. I care more for bitcoin adoption.

So... let's make an experiment - push it forward.

Conditions, requirements, steps to do

If you are a cuban, salvadoran or any other place on this planet, where you want to see Bitcoin adopted by your local merchants, come and post here. Don't try to assmilk or scam. We will know it.
Find a bar that accept Bitcoin, near you - see https://btcmap.org
Ask to pay with BTC over LN for a beer/coffee. Don't push too much our kindness...
Take a screenshot of the QR invoice, or share the LN invoice here.
Record a video or at least some pictures of the whole process and share them here. also indicate the location of the bar or website or some contact. If you post them on a public social media I would like also to share them into my special article about places where Bitcoin is used at daily basis for payments.
We will pay for your beer/coffee
If the bar owner is new to Bitcoin, YOU will need to help them how to setup the LN wallet, if you are a bitcoiner that already know. Is up to you which wallet want to use, that is not important for this experiment.
If YOU are the newbie and just want to help a bitcoin shop owner and bring him into this experiment, then please read first my guides, especially the one about LN wallets.

Let's show the world how Bitcoin works. Let's start that Bitcoin Circular Economy, right here on Stacker News! ENOUGH WITH COMPLAINTS THAT "I cannot pay a coffee with my BTC wallet, there's nobody accepting it." ENOUGH WITH USING VISA CARDS! Let's use Bitcoin!

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639 sats \ 5 replies \ @MrM 19 Sep 2023

This is a fantastic idea let me have my coffee get ready im running late (Cuz I spent little to many SATs there already if you know what I mean😉😉 saying hydrated) and lets try to onboard these non believers

570 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

OK guys, MrM sent me a video about his tx to a lady in El Salvador, at the vegetables market. I pay it for him. Here it is: https://streamable.com/3nyqw6

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

lmao, that swipe down from the other hand to refresh the transaction list

i can feel this so much since it reminds me of my parents xD

but yes, how should you know if you don't know. gestures (and other stuff) are just IYKYK

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Payment hash: 5d993c3c92045b2f0a6ef59bfe44d62c220fe967336e1342cf53e9d3d4ddb31f

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

quick... the beer is getting warm

314 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 19 Sep 2023

Awesome Darth. Zapped you 10,000 sats to pay for someone's coffee.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Thank you very much! Saw them and will use them wisely for this inititative, well I already use them :) But you can do it yourself too, just grab a LN invoice and pay it. Now I will do it for you. Anyways, this is open for anybody!

313 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bitcoiner1 19 Sep 2023

Bitcoin is amazing and @Darthcoin always goes the extra mile to do it even better!

205 sats \ 20 replies \ @shurikencutter 20 Sep 2023

I absolutely love this concept of Bitcoin is kindness. It not only promotes adoption but also showcases the real-world applicability and efficiency of Bitcoin transactions. It's initiatives like these that will help more people understand and appreciate the power and potential of Bitcoin. Looking forward to seeing the Force of Bitcoin grow stronger in the community. May the sats be with you!

1210 sats \ 19 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

Please just go now to a near merchant that accept bitcoin and I will pay you a beer. Or better, go and onboard a new merchant into bitcoin ! I will be here for the next 10h today.

21 sats \ 18 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

Because of rain again? lol

205 sats \ 16 replies \ @shurikencutter 20 Sep 2023

@ekzyis how about meeting and orange pilling a merchant to make use of this offer? Unfortunately right now there is no one near us who accepts Bitcoin.

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

the place where the local bitcoin meetup took place did start to accept bitcoin iirc

i've tried to orange pill two merchants so far. i buy food there regularly so i wasn't just a random stranger who asked about bitcoin.

however, none of them were really interested in accepting bitcoin. one was more interested in fiat gains and now i don't go there anymore since it's awkward xD (i think i told you about it). the other one did not understand what i wanted to say i think. language barrier + trying to explain bitcoin xD

205 sats \ 13 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

Onboarding merchants is the toughest task even for an experienced bitcoiner. Sometimes myself I feel like I am some kind of alien, trying to explain time traveling to monkeys 😂😂😂😂😂

0 sats \ 12 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

yes and trying hard to explain you're not trying to scam them, haha

but i hope even if they didn't accept bitcoin because of me, they will remember me and the next person may have more luck

i think if enough (100?) people ask the same shop about bitcoin in a short period of time (like a month?), they will surely start to look into it

21 sats \ 11 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

And then you walk in with a t-shirt like this...

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/YWeI73320tvhJ6UCRe7rSgIudJKvmBN2_DCHAhVD58c/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvM1I4NUZRRmovSS10b2xkLXlvdS1zby5qcGc

I really love this "I told you so" meme

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/sTcdQgOoIcpy0NwhRoYAD28Lips_C2ANWClTGztaN_Q/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvWDdQMllDNXEvdG9sZC15b3Utc28uanBn

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

That is the best way! Like Dr.Shift did, see bellow his comment #259254

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

Yeah hahaha rain makes me more kind

31 sats \ 7 replies \ @siggy47 19 Sep 2023

Excellent idea. I am giving 10000 sats because it's a great idea and because I learned the term "assmilk."

179 sats \ 6 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Noooo, don't give the sats to me, grab the next LN invoice posted and pay it (ok, now I will do it for you) Is pay it forward, not Darth is paying forward... 😂😂😂😂

I want every stacker to participate in this, not just me. Let's see the next ones. I am refreshing the thread.

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 19 Sep 2023

But you taught me about assmilk.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

hahahaah

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/YlVHq5BIquZfjgxBVjIzLoF4dc7r2uk8ntNfdbjVdXQ/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvOUZwV1g1Z00vYXNzLW1pbGsuZ2lm

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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179 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

you know what are tapas right?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 19 Sep 2023

Oh no! Yes I do, and I like them.

320 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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23 sats \ 10 replies \ @DrShift 19 Sep 2023

Hey Darth I will post an invoice for my German Kellerbier soon. The merchant lilienschaenke ( https://www.lilienschaenke-sportsbar.de) is accepting bitcoin. The invoice will be generated via the tpos extension froma self hosted lnbits.

We going to this spot once a month to meet up and talk about Bitcoin. Soon the owner noticed that we talking about Bitcoin and told us his story when he first owned bitcoin in 2012 and bought a "premiere" box to watch football live with it. Today this box is worth a few million dollars and he's still owning it. After that story we talked to him to accept bitcoin in his bar to earn a few sats to compensate his loss back in 2012 ^^

Would love to show his employes the power of bitcoin.

10 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Cool, I am here waiting to pay it. Will try to use SN wallet directly so I don't have to move them out first. Let's see how is going.

11 sats \ 8 replies \ @DrShift 19 Sep 2023

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https://imgprxy.stacker.news/p4EmaNUl3F7-txkyMbp0PFswsc8gtrCtx3wI1sQZphk/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvNnBia1FDN0QvSU1HLTIwMjMwOTE5LTIwNDAwNS5qcGc

10 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

paid! Well done man! You did the perfect process as it was explained!

I think this was the face of that new Bitcoin merchant watching his first LN transaction

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/ZG7teJqiLy7VWnCaRO8TDzbtrSogmAjF05Wscm2pqkk/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2Mva2dxa3hSVEcveW91cl9maXJzdF9MTi5naWY

36 sats \ 5 replies \ @DrShift 19 Sep 2023

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Perfect beer. Thanks you! :)

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

No! Thanks to you because you onboarded a new merchant! THIS IS HUUUGE.

This is why Bitcoin is powerful. Is changing people's mind totally.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

I felt something... a presence I'm not felt since...

The Force is everywhere, in each human body.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Payment hash: 6cb85def4ace82530bd4bb5385ec84f8281e3f2d8544a2622f60cce3566b3509

22 sats \ 2 replies \ @realtrader 21 Sep 2023

Show!

I work in a Lan House and there are people who are 'digitally illiterate' every day

The most frequent service is a XEROX or printing a PDF file, will I be able to present the bitcoin to a client tomorrow?

it is now 00:42 (UTC -3) Universal Time 03:42

I'll open at 9am, if you're out there I'd love to do that, I really want to see their reaction

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 21 Sep 2023

Cool, I am here waiting for your invoice. How you are going to do it? So the nocoiner come to the shop and I will pay his invoice in sats to you? Please don't push too much. If you onboard him, I would like also to give some sats to him/her, not just paying to you his shopping.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @realtrader 21 Sep 2023

After payment, I thought about offering him an orange pill for free, and now that I've read your comment, specifically the part where you say 'I want to give him some sats' I can leave a message after the experience. ..

' Do you want to learn a little more about how to become your own bank and be a more sovereign and responsible being using bitcoin? '

If he answers yes, I install a wallet for him, create an invoice and send his substack for him to study.

In addition to my follow-up, until he arrives here within SN

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @SatsCats 20 Sep 2023

?? Question ?? Would anyone have any guides/info explaining the tax implications for the merchant? I know it's different in each country, so I'm not looking for financial/accounting advice; it's more of a general question. What do you say to a newbie merchant on reporting revenue via lightning? Or a discussion on how to hold and "sell" if and when needed.

148 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

Bitcoin (sats) is cash money. That's it. In your accounting you will "declare" it as cash payments. No other bullshit crap.

And tell them to read my guides (see my bio). As I said many times: your life will be much easier if you read ALL DarthCoin's Bitcoin guides (are over 60).

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatsCats 20 Sep 2023

Thanks, I just started going through all your guides and am blown away by the level of detail.

240 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

All my guides are proof of work. Were done after intense testing and experimenting with I described inside. Are 10+ years of learning and using Bitcoin.

And my Bitcoin knowledge is free for everybody. Forever.

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/VxtKWC17ldw4HCJsB1475VAHg6WcmFYj20Mtkeyxedg/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvRDBDRkhzMFgvZGFydGgta25vd2xlZGdlLnBuZw

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 20 Sep 2023

Love the movement! Keep it up everyone!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 20 Sep 2023

Just threw some more zaps on the pile. let’s go!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

ohhhh man, no!

I initiated this for everybody not just for me doing it.
I already have the sats enough to pay some beers
Let's wait first to see when the cubans are coming here... 😂😂😂

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 21 Sep 2023

Ha ha deal!

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @newnym 19 Sep 2023

Great idea. Toxic kindness. I like it. :)

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

hahaha you just invented a new term: "toxic kindness". Bitcoiners are not just psychopaths and toxic maxis, but also kind. I like it too!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @newnym 20 Sep 2023

For what is worth, feel free to use it. :)

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @SovranSystems 19 Sep 2023

Hopefully SN's servers can withstand this "SN hug" (reddit days). I will be waiting for an invoice to pay!

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

If I don't pay it first. Announce your intention for it. Let's see when the cubans are coming 😂😂😂

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SovranSystems 19 Sep 2023

Great! Someone who is at a place that takes bitcoin send me the invoice and the pic of the place's menu and what you ordered (beer/coffee) and I will clear the invoice on my end.

Much Love.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @mf 19 Sep 2023

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/D9ULO8-WaiSAzsv-aHFH4NKB7-o-u3JUC7O8LDxcTsk/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRpYS50ZW5vci5jb20vUzJfazhqTmh5MVFBQUFBQy90aGUtbWFuZGFsb3JpYW4tdGhpcy1pcy10aGUtd2F5LmdpZg

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tsampa 21 Sep 2023

🟠🟣⚡️📖🫡 🐐 Superb idea, #bitcoin is #middlepath. #Bitcoin is #kindness

i will be selling my rolling paper soon...🫡

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @DrSurge 19 Sep 2023

Haus of Dawgs in Canton, Ohio. there is no one else around here. He even runs a node with a bluewallet!

https://btcmap.org/merchant/node:10127853758

2 coffee, 1 bratwurst for the dog!

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110 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

paid

Here is a picture from the bar sent by user to me.

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/cVFxWoH9UUqw5fLGenmBHdSkyTgfqd5BIUxj0u-VOmY/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvdlpQeVJURlIvaGF1cy1vZi1kYXdncy5qcGc

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Payment hash: 71e12b7d310ce73869970b96b84f02481fd0842cae6cde905d7f11eaf5113904

19 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Additional steps:

please ask the merchant to put a description in the LN invoice, let's do it nice. Put beers from Darth or whatever you want, or the name of the bar
Before you post your LN invoice, say some words about your story/case, so I can see your post coming and wait for the invoice. Explain what we are going to pay for.
wait for my confirmation that I pay it. I will do it once I got my confirmation from my wallet. I will try also to pay with sats from SN account.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitalion 19 Sep

I remember that @JoeNakamoto did something similar when he visited us with Paco RunWithBitcoin at the first meetup held in Cuba. He gave a demonstration of how fast and efficient Bitcoin payments are. Many people were amazed because he hadn't placed the invoice in X and it was already being paid from an African country if I remember correctly. A very good initiative.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 29 Sep

Bullish on ditching visa.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

@DarthCoin, I know you don't need it (and probably don't want it), but I want to at least offer it:

Why don't you post a payment request yourself here and I'll pay it?

The saloon could become a real saloon where we pay for each others drinks, lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

LOL people already sent me sats, no need to pay my drinks. I am paying for others drinks, still waiting their stories here. And I want everybody to participate, not just me.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @duvel 20 Sep 2023

Fantastic idea! Only every comment here isn't a request for a payment and you need to have some notifications setup. Not sure if this is possible on SN.

Would a Matrix chat group (No telegram because of phone number) specifically dedicated for LN payment requests perhaps be a better idea? You can get notifications and respond more quickly.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

If you go to https://stacker.news/notifications you will see on top right the option. Also if you want to be kind, keep open the page and refresh it (like I did 9h yesterday).

I wanted to test SN not other apps for this experiment. Only like that we can improve the experience on SN. Also bring more stackers here.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @duvel 20 Sep 2023

Ah like that. Interesting. That could indeed bring SN forward. I will test it on the progressive web app. Would be nice if I subscribe that I also get notifications.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

@ekzyis ? Can you give a better technical answer ?

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

Mhh, you should get push notifications if you subscribe to a post or user.

But push notifications are wonky. So some might get lost for unknown reasons, but we added diagnostics in the last release to investigate this better. Push notifications rely on external services which are provided by every browser so we unfortunately don't have much control over them.

But we're probably doing something wrong which we can fix to make them more reliable.

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

OK guys, I am going to sleep`. Will continue tomorrow if somebody will want to onboard a merchant/nocoiner and if this thread will still have interest.

I was waiting for your invoices for 9 hours, refreshing this thread every 3-5 min.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 20 Sep 2023

checking here reminded me of this " crazy person "

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/Rq38ijukA8ziDuKkhblvYOGgefv0Pax0yNv8fZXjtOI/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvWUNObVZOelQvZGFydGgtZG9vci1sZWZmZS5qcGc

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 20 Sep 2023

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 20 Sep 2023

evet!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

lol, i wanted to make a post out of this video at some point like "be like this guy" (or the second guy)

a truly inspiring video

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

I subscribed to this post now

I am also going to sleep now however, lol

Very nice idea! Also good field testing of the SN wallet to buy for stuff. Found some nice features we could easily add.

Tomorrow, I might ask my girlfriend if she wants me to buy her a coffee or piece of cake since where she lives, a bitcoiner owns a coffee shop and restaurant :)

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

I am waiting here for her invoice to pay it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 21 Sep 2023

Oh, btw, she said she'll be in the city near the restaurant next week :)

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

Just wrote her, even if she agrees (the bitcoin accepting places are on the other side of the city), the earliest is probably in 8 hours

Also, regarding the payment requests: how did people not only send you pictures of QR codes? You can't copy the payment request from the PoS to your device to send it to you and typing it manually is cumbersome. What am I missing?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 21 Sep 2023

What am I missing?

That you can just scan the QR code, lol

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @bzzzt 19 Sep 2023

Awesome idea, sats rdy to deploy 🫡

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

or could be you too! Just go to a near merchant and do it. Important is that WE MOVE SATS in a Bitcoin Circular Economy!

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Natalia 19 Sep 2023

cool, but then it means it would expose the location? 🧐

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 20 Sep 2023

I am still waiting for your friend birthday present....

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 20 Sep 2023

She is spending time with family tonight, but we would meet during the weekend, let's see by then 👀

How about for my birthday.! next week, wink wink

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Could be enough a picture of your wallet and merchant wallet showing the tx done. No need for faces or exact locations. I don't care too much.

But also promoting shops that accept BTC is good. Sharing their links is OK if they want.

0 sats \ 16 replies \ @cutthepretence 19 Sep 2023 freebie

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SaToSHiWoMaN 4 Mar outlawed

stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @MrM 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @MrM 19 Sep 2023

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Pupusas from Paradise!!! other on onbord Thanks Darth you are doing satoshis work

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

paid from my SN account. Worked nice this time. So you are onboarding merchants in El Salvador now? Send my regards to pupusas lady :)

@k00b can we have some more details for the payments from SN account? I know is not meant to be used like that and only as "withdrawals" but I would like to see it with payment hash for example. If is not too much for you to do it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 19 Sep 2023

We store it. Mind making a github issue with all the metadata you'd like to see?

450 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

sure, will do it tomorrow after will finish with this crazy thread, to have a conclusion about how was going.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

wrong invoice man, maybe they show you the invoice for chivo dollars?

https://lightningdecoder.com/ says "invalid checksum"

0 sats \ 11 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

This thread is not only for me doing it. You can take any invoice posted here and pay it if you want. In few hours I will go to sleep so I will not be able to continue this today....

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

One thing is to zap on SN for shitposting... zaping each others here for memes is not so productive. One thing is to pay it forward to onboard new merchants or help merchants that already accept it. This is very productive.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Remember that zapping inside SN is like playing kids with tokens. Paying outside SN to REAL life shops is something else... Some of the payments I did today for this thread, I did from another wallets not from SN, because people were sending me pictures of the QRs instead of pasting here the LN invoice code. So I have to take out sats from SN and send them to other wallets. Maybe someday SN will be a lndhub account so I can use it easily form another app as wallet for payments externally.

With this thread I wanted:

to onboard new merhants
pay to some stackers a beer
show the world we can do it

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 20 Sep 2023

because people were sending me pictures of the QRs instead of pasting here the LN invoice code.

Mhh, adding a QR code scanner shouldn't be too hard and could thus be implemented faster than LNDhub

I'll create a ticket about this tomorrow if I don't forget. I'll also create one for the invoice details you mentioned if you didn't already create one :)

Maybe we should even name the options in the wallet send and receive instead of withdraw and fund?

@k00b, what do you think?

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 20 Sep 2023

If you want! (per the usual, prioritize it among things you think will be high impact for the site ... it may help to imagine the pitchforks will come for you too 😄)

Personally, I think stuff like this is a great 'good first issue' or a 'do this one with a buzz issue' for someone. You and I should probably focus on the stuff that requires deeper context to solve.

450 sats \ 4 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Again

One thing is to send sats to a good cause initiated on SN, for something good that will have some practical end in life.

One thing is to zap 1000 sats for a meme, when you could just zap 10 or 21 or let's say 100 if you really like it. Yes memes are fun and we can create more engagement here. But that's not all about SN.

I think you get wrong my words: I am not saying that is wrong to zap on SN, but control your amounts. As you know, if you want a post/comment to be more visible, zapping one time 10 or 10k sats is the same for visibility. But if more stackers are posting 5 sats is more powerful than your 10k sats in one zap.

This is where many stackers still don't get it.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 19 Sep 2023

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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 19 Sep 2023

Yes, I understand you. Keep in mind that are many users here that see those shitload of sats and they get angry why do not get them, thinking that SN is an assmilking place.

With high zaps you can create a false impression for them that they can get easy sats.

No. On SN must be proof of work in order to get sats.

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