Million Sat Madness 2 - Is it necessary for stackers to hide their identity? \ stacker news ~meta

Million Sat Madness 2 - Is it necessary for stackers to hide their identity?

162 sats \ 55 comments \ @Tef 1 Apr meta

Personally, I don't think so. This feature shouldn't exist. For the sake of transparency, everyone should know how many sats the owners of the top places have stacked or zapped.

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273 sats \ 19 replies \ @siggy47 1 Apr

Can I have your address? I want to mail you something.

291 sats \ 14 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

I am pro stackers being able to hide. That being said, in these contests I don't think hidden stackers should be able to win top prizes (so maybe not eligible for top 3 or 5). Should be some trade off for anonymity.

It's kind of odd to have a contest and have no idea who the top 3 winners were. I am certain you were amongst the top 3 if not number 1 and for all you contribute to the community I think that is well deserved but in my opinion the purpose of these contests should be to drive new users and engagement to the site.

When I put myself in the shoes of a new stacker, or even a less frequent stacker who is intrigued by the contest. Having no daily rewards to keep them interested, a top heavy zaprank algo, and not having a clue who the top 3 participants are so you can see what they are doing to rank so well is a horrible new user experience.

78 sats \ 11 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Apr

This doesn't change your point, because it's about optics, but the second and third place finishers can be inferred from the current rewards page. Neither ended up being hiders.

Something is screwed up with the estimated rewards and rankings algorithm.

65 sats \ 8 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

This doesn't change your point, because it's about optics, but the second and third place finishers can be inferred from the current rewards page. Neither ended up being hiders.

I don't know what you mean by this. I can't tell who came in 2nd or 3rd based on the current rankings. I don't see anyone with more sats than DavidW and we know he finished 4th.

50 sats \ 7 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Apr

It's not the current rankings. Our MSM rewards are included in "stacked".

Do we know davidw finished fourth? If so, 2nd and 4th can be inferred from that page.

65 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

Looks like they are all hiding to me. I don't know how you are searching for this.

65 sats \ 5 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

I guess we don't know for sure but he was in fourth last night.

50 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Apr

It was me! But apparently I was getting paid for past performance. Classic mistake SN.

65 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

Ok but how do you know who 2 and 3 were?

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60 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei 3 Apr

Did you get 3rd place? 😉

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 3 Apr

No. I got second...in February. That glitch was quite the godsend.

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 1 Apr

Good argument. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

75 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

That's fair.

75 sats \ 3 replies \ @Tef OP 1 Apr

Yes, why not? Give me yours so I can send you mine. 😁

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 1 Apr

That's the right answer!

75 sats \ 1 reply \ @Tef OP 1 Apr

I understand your point of view @siggy47 and I respect it! I probably would have done the same if I were in your position. Who knows. But I like to open thought-provoking discussions. I hope I haven't upset you.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 1 Apr

Of course not. I understand your point of view too. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this stuff myself. Il

86 sats \ 22 replies \ @frostdragon 1 Apr

I feel pretty indifferent about this. Most people are pretty anonymous on here anyway. What difference doesn't make if you see frostdragon vs hidden stacker.

Also, are we doing another month of that? I kinda miss daily rewards

0 sats \ 20 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Apr

The real reason, as some of them mentioned, isn't hiding their nym but they want to hide that they have so many sats in here. They think they can get exposed for owning millions of sats on SN. Great!

I have 2 question.

Do you really think that 1milliion sats are enough for someone to try and hack your SN profile? Still .. 700 fucks!

Another one is that they again don't want to be exposed to downzappers. Why would someone downzap Whatever! I am not buyin this either. Why do people downzap clicking right?

217 sats \ 19 replies \ @siggy47 1 Apr

The whole point of bitcoin is autonomy and privacy. Otherwise why are we here? If people need to explain why they want privacy we have bigger problems than a little fiat game.

75 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 1 Apr

I'm here because I think there's a real chance Bitcoin will end all of these fiat regimes and I want to help it do so.

75 sats \ 16 replies \ @frostdragon 1 Apr

I agree with your points in comments on this post - I think privacy is super important/essential, but I actually disagree that the whole point of bitcoin is privacy, fwiw. The public ledger is inherently not private. There are some pretty solid layer 2 solutions, but privacy isn't one of the properties that makes money sound.

0 sats \ 15 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Apr

Did you recieve your MSM reward? @frostdragon

0 sats \ 14 replies \ @frostdragon 1 Apr

Not yet!

0 sats \ 13 replies \ @Tef OP 1 Apr

Why haven't you received your MSM reward? Were you inside the 64 places?

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @frostdragon 1 Apr

Yeah no idea, I wasn't as high as 30, but I was in the top 40 or 50. Unless something crazy happened last minute, I should have gotten a few thousand sats, but I'm guessing they're still working out the kinks.

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Apr

I don't know why. But I can confirm that I was half inside the top 64. At 30.

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75 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 1 Apr

You're right.

What I asked was based on the real concerns mentioned by those who chose this privacy feature. I have no problems with the hiding but the reasons are irrelevant.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Tef OP 1 Apr

People here are anonymous anyway. Who knows the identity hidden behind the frostdragon?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Apr

I always stayed open and not hiding anything. I always said that for this MSM contest is not good that some stackers are in hiding and some don't.

Why? Because we don't care about how much sats they got, that is not important for this MSM contest, but how many comments, posts and how they move up in rankings.

If you are to compete with somebody else but you are blindfolded, that's not a fair game from the start. Is rigged. We are all hidden or we are all open.

And that's why I took the hard decision to hide myself too. If these are the rules, I will play by the rules.

There are more aspects that doesn't seems to be right for a contest, but anyways, I don't want to enter in all those details, I will keep them for me only and so be it.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Tef OP 1 Apr

Because we don't care about how much sats they got, that is not important for this MSM contest, but how many comments, posts and how they move up in rankings.

That was my point!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Apr

Stackers, you better pray to be good weather in April, so Darth could go away to his citadel and not be anymore active on SN... 😂😂😂😂

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Natalia 1 Apr

I pray bad weather all year around there, sorry darth 😂

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Apr

😂😂😂😂😂

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @astro_penguin 1 Apr

It's not a big deal to me personally. To be fair though, I'm not exactly competing for any of those places!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Tef OP 1 Apr

But you are not curious to see their stats?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @astro_penguin 1 Apr

I don't think I looked at the leaderboard more than 2 or 3 times the whole month, so for me it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I'm primarily here for the content, so I'm often just lurking and zapping with the comment here and there if I've got something to add to the conversation.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 1 Apr

I'm good with it so long as the @sn team confirms they are genuine stackers.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

I disagree but I don't think hidden stackers should be eligible for the top 3.

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 1 Apr

I disagree. I understand your sentiment re strategy, but many of us hid our stats long before MSM. We should change all that for a stupid game? It would be different if you could opt out and get daily rewards, but you can't. I feel like I'm watching MSNBC. "Why are you private? What have you got to hide?" In the end, what you and I think are irrelevant. From the start this was jammed down everyone's throat without stacker's input.

75 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 1 Apr

I replied with my thoughts in another of your comments so I won't repeat here. I hear what you are saying.